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Re: Problems with va_list & friends...

From Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Problems with va_list & friends...
Date 2015-04-20 17:48 +0100
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On 20/04/15 15:39, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> On 20-Apr-15 08:27, Richard Heathfield wrote:
>> On 20/04/15 13:49, Les Cargill wrote:
>>> The rule "your code should have no warnings" is a normative,
>>> process based one. If you have such a rule to work with, then it's
>>> not "bad code" to fix the warning.
>>
>> Actually, it's not only bad code but also a bad process, if the
>> process requires you to make the code less readable in order to
>> silence a spurious warning.
>
> You're assuming that silencing the warning makes the code less readable.

Let's map it out:

Situation A: warning fires, code rewritten to silence warning, code is 
now more readable
Situation B: warning fires, code rewritten to silence warning, code is 
now as readable as before
Situation C: warning fires, code rewritten to silence warning, code is 
now less readable

I have no problem with the first two situations - if Les insists I 
rewrite the code to silence the warning and I can do so by making the 
code at least as readable or more so, I will happily do it. Les's 
process and mine both work just fine in those scenarios.

It is therefore only the third case that is under discussion.

> Also, IMHO the metric should be that the cost of changing the code is
> greater than the cost (to every person who builds the code for all
> eternity) of determining the warning is spurious, which is a rather high
> bar for long-lived projects with large teams.

You have two lines of code. Each of them /might/ have a problem. For one 
of them, you get a diagnostic message, a file name, a line number, and a 
comment explaining why the diagnostic message can on this occasion 
safely be set aside. For the other, you don't get any of that 
information. Which is easier (therefore cheaper) to check?

> Do you have such an example?

Code that can generate a spurious warning? Sure. So do you. Your entire 
code base is packed with statements that could generate a spurious 
warning. And, assuming you're getting a clean compile now, at your next 
compiler upgrade you might not be any more.

>
>>> And I remain skeptical of that idea. That code may be "simpler" -
>>> lacking a cast or something - but I don't see how that's
>>> necessarily better.
>>
>> It isn't /necessarily/ better. If the code can be /improved/ by
>> changing it to silence the warning, great, let's do that! You,
>> however, are arguing that code that produces a warning is
>> /necessarily/ worse than code that does not produce that warning, and
>> here I must disagree.
>
> IME, if the compiler is concerned about the potential meaning of the
> code, then so will at least some of the programmers who will have to
> maintain it.

I sure hope so. And I hope they'll go to the comment, and read it, and 
check to see whether it's right. And I hope they'll do the same for 
every other line of code, too, diagnostic message or no.

<snip>

-- 
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
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Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2015-04-16 13:08 +0200
  Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-16 12:14 -0500
    Re: Problems with va_list & friends... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2015-04-16 17:18 +0000
    Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-16 18:43 +0100
      Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-16 21:03 -0500
        Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-16 23:38 -0400
        Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-17 07:39 +0100
          Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-17 13:31 -0500
            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-17 14:46 -0400
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 11:46 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-18 15:35 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-22 10:57 -0700
            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-19 11:58 +0100
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 10:50 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 17:55 +0100
          Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-17 23:01 -0500
            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-18 00:24 -0500
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            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 11:56 -0700
            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-19 14:59 +0100
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-19 11:47 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-19 18:44 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-19 18:34 -0400
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2015-04-20 10:30 -0700
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-23 20:25 -0500
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-24 12:58 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-24 22:13 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-28 13:05 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-30 08:40 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-01 08:40 -0700
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-05-04 17:43 +1200
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-05-04 07:34 -0500
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-05-10 07:40 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-05-04 08:49 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-05-04 12:23 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-04-20 07:49 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 14:27 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 09:39 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 17:48 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 15:58 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 22:25 +0100
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 15:02 -0400
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2015-04-20 12:51 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 21:17 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-20 16:09 -0700
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                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-22 08:36 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2015-04-22 03:15 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-22 11:52 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2015-04-22 09:04 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-22 17:14 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-20 15:24 -0700
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-22 11:01 -0500
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2015-04-23 08:17 -0700
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-26 12:07 +0200
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-26 14:22 +0100
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-22 17:35 -0500
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-22 19:15 -0400
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-23 11:05 -0500
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-23 14:12 -0500
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-23 15:50 -0400
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-23 16:43 -0500
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-28 13:03 -0400
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2015-05-10 12:24 -0400
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                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-04-22 10:52 +0200
                Re: The Metric system (Was: Problems with va_list & friends...) Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-04-22 09:18 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-04-21 22:25 +0000
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-23 15:59 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-23 11:51 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-23 11:26 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 16:15 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 17:23 -0400
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 13:17 -0400
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-20 15:26 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-20 16:15 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-04-21 00:42 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-22 11:15 -0700
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 21:50 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-04-20 17:04 -0400
          Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 08:22 -0700
            Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-19 18:23 +0100
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-04-19 13:22 -0700
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-19 21:51 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 10:01 +0100
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-04-20 05:08 -0500
                Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-04-20 11:37 +0100
              Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-23 20:13 -0700
    Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Philipp Klaus Krause <pkk@spth.de> - 2015-04-18 09:15 +0200
      Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 12:13 -0700
  Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-04-16 23:40 -0400
  Re: Problems with va_list & friends... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-04-18 08:11 -0700

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