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Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow

From "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow
Date 2025-08-13 20:06 +0100
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On 09/08/2025 22:47, David B. wrote:
> On 09/08/2025 22:09, Tyrone wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 2025 at 1:54:57 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/08/2025 15:05, Tyrone wrote:
>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 6:01:36 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 08/08/2025 22:30, Tyrone wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other 
>>>>>>> professional work,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects 
>>>>>>> and sends,
>>>>>>> despite requiring Full Disk Access,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is 
>>>>>> nothing wrong
>>>>>> with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> …then by all means, enlighten me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are 
>>>>>> answering your
>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the 
>>>>>> answers to
>>>>>> your "questions".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same
>>>>>>> question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have asked these questions MANY TIMES.  They have been 
>>>>>> answered MANY
>>>>>> TIMES. Drop it and move on.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Tyrone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mentioned that lots of people have looked into EtreCheck and found
>>>>> nothing wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Why don't YOU mention the people who HAVE found ANYTHING wrong with 
>>>> EtreCheck?
>>>>     YOU are the one making the allegations. It is up to YOU to prove 
>>>> them.
>>>> Because everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.  Not the 
>>>> other way
>>>> around.
>>>>
>>>> Don't you think that people at Apple have looked into this?  Don't 
>>>> you think
>>>> that people at the various Apple support forums (where you have been 
>>>> banned)
>>>> have looked into this?  Why else would EVERYONE recommend EtreCheck? 
>>>> Even your
>>>> former hero Howard Oakley.
>>>>
>>>> You are the ONLY person questioning EtreCheck.  Over and over and 
>>>> over. You
>>>> are obsessed with it. Yet you don't question any other software. You 
>>>> don't
>>>> know any of the people who wrote any of the software you use daily. 
>>>> Yet you
>>>> presume all of that software and all of those people to be innocent.
>>>>
>>>> Why is that?  Just because an innocent person (the author of 
>>>> EtreCheck) is
>>>> avoiding a stalker (you)?
>>>>
>>>> AGAIN, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty.  Not the 
>>>> other way
>>>> around.
>>>
>>> Tyrone,
>>>
>>> I’m not asking anyone to “prove guilt” — I’m asking for verifiable 
>>> facts.
>>
>> WE ARE DEMANIND FOR YOU TO PROVE GUILT.   Because YOU are claiming guilt
>> WITHOUT "verifiable facts".
>>
>>> That’s the whole point: clear, documented evidence would settle the
>>> question far better than personal assumptions about my motives.
>>
>> Yes, it is. So why are you alleging guilt without "clear, documented
>> evidence"?
>>
>> And we all know your personal motives.  No assumptions necessary.
> 
> Tyrone,
> 
> I’m not alleging “guilt” — I’m pointing out that claims of independent
> audits are being made without any cited names, reports, or methodologies
> that others can verify.
> 
> If you or anyone else can point to a public, third-party technical audit
> of EtreCheck’s code or data handling, please link it. That’s all I’ve
> asked for from the start.
> 
> Presumption of innocence in law is not the same as bypassing basic due
> diligence in software security — especially for a tool with Full Disk 
> Access.
> 
> Until those sources are cited, “lots of people have looked at it”
> remains an unverified assertion, not evidence.
> 
> *Do you understand*?

*BUMP*

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Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-05 12:38 +0100
  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-06 00:06 +0000
  Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-06 05:58 +0000
    Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 11:19 +0100
      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-08 12:55 +0000
        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 15:39 +0100
      Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-08 17:21 +0000
        Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 19:13 +0100
          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 12:29 -0700
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 21:40 +0100
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 13:51 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 21:58 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-08 21:30 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-08 23:01 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-09 14:05 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 18:54 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-09 21:09 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 22:47 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 20:06 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-08 15:18 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 09:50 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 09:15 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 18:58 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 13:15 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 22:49 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-09 15:38 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-10 09:46 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-10 12:41 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 20:09 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 12:32 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 21:58 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 22:12 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:54 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-11 19:08 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2025-08-10 09:07 -0400
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-10 12:41 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-08-08 22:07 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 15:37 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 22:57 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-08 13:56 -0700
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 04:48 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 09:44 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-11 19:08 +0000
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-09 01:22 +0000
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 10:01 +0100
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2025-08-09 09:48 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 12:13 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Charlie Glock <charlieglock@localhost.com> - 2025-08-09 22:05 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-09 23:20 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-09 15:32 -0700
          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 20:07 +0100
          Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-13 21:16 +0000
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-13 22:45 +0100
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-13 14:55 -0700
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-13 20:09 -0500
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-14 08:58 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-14 17:23 -0500
              Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-08-14 14:58 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-24 08:31 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-24 17:55 -0500
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-25 08:28 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-08-25 07:02 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-25 17:46 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Kelly Phillips <KFile@podcasts.org> - 2025-08-25 10:19 -0500
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-08-25 17:44 +0200
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-25 17:43 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-25 22:24 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-25 22:59 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-26 10:50 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 13:29 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 15:19 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 15:30 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 08:46 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 15:47 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-08-26 18:02 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 21:07 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> - 2025-08-26 07:31 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 13:24 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 15:16 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 16:22 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Creon <creon@creon.earth> - 2025-08-26 21:21 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow "David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-08-26 22:24 +0100
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-31 21:03 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 22:14 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-08-26 14:34 -0700
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Gremlin <nobody@haph.org> - 2025-08-31 21:03 +0000
                Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2025-08-31 22:15 +0000
            Re: Optimising performance with EtreCheckPro and Ulbow T i m <eternal@spaced.me.uk> - 2025-08-14 15:27 +0100

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