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| From | jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: What is "complexifying" C? |
| Date | 2015-03-20 07:49 +0100 |
| Organization | lccwin |
| Message-ID | <megftf$vmn$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <programming-20150319153533@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <W2COw.61025$uF6.16057@fx17.iad> <mefh8n$6b5$1@speranza.aioe.org> <%dIOw.34716$Xj5.11604@fx26.iad> <cn1tsaF9khqU1@mid.individual.net> |
Le 20/03/2015 07:43, Ian Collins a écrit : > Greg Martin wrote: >> On 2015-03-19, jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> wrote: >>> >>> Look at what happened with complex numbers. There are MANY ways of doing >>> a complex division, if you care about speed, or accuracy or robustness, >>> or other criteria. With the language solution you >>> >>> 1) Complexify enormously ALL the C implementations that have to add that >>> feature. >>> >>> 2) You tie the user to its implementation decisions. He/she can't change >>> the way a complex division is done. >>> >>> Can you propose another solution? >>> >> >> You mean other then writing the code to do it? No. >> >> How does operator overloading remove the burden of writing the code? Or >> are you suggesting it's not possible for programmers to operate on >> complex numbers in C? > > His point was in a language with operating overloading (such as C++) you > don't have to change the core language in order to add new numeric > types, be they complex number of otherwise. > > The burden is removed from the language standard and implementation and > in the case of complex numbers, the user gets the flexibility of > choosing the underlying type and implementation. > EXACTLY! Mr Martin just doesn't want to answer. He says: "Just write the code todo it" without seeing that you can't write any code to do it since you can't rewrite complex division. It is wired into the compiler!
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What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-16 22:55 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-16 22:55 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-16 16:41 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-03-17 00:05 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 01:12 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-03-25 13:58 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 07:16 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-17 13:50 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 14:59 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 15:22 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-17 16:16 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-03-17 14:39 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-17 15:23 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-18 15:40 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-03-18 22:49 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-19 13:55 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-19 15:37 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-03-19 23:06 +0100
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Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-20 19:43 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-03-20 07:49 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-20 02:29 -0500
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Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-22 22:28 +1300
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Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 17:01 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-23 03:09 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-03-23 01:42 -0700
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Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-22 17:34 -0500
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-22 20:07 -0400
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Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 18:04 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-23 23:22 -0400
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-22 14:54 -0400
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Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 17:06 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 17:25 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-22 23:33 -0500
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 18:01 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-03-23 09:41 -0400
Re: What is "complexifying" C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-03-23 10:23 -0400
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-24 07:10 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-03-23 14:57 -0400
Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-24 09:36 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-03-24 08:42 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-24 11:23 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-03-24 10:52 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-03-29 16:58 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-22 02:38 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-22 09:11 -0400
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-03-20 06:30 -0500
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-20 10:31 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-20 13:49 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-20 09:23 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-21 08:28 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-20 01:04 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-03-17 08:05 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 16:08 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-03-17 11:09 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 21:37 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 00:40 -0500
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 15:34 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 15:06 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-17 00:05 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-16 23:20 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-17 16:42 +1300
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-17 08:59 -0500
Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 15:18 +0100
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 14:41 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-18 15:47 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-19 00:26 +0000
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-19 03:23 -0700
Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-19 11:19 +0000
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