Re: What is "complexifying" C?

From	jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.c
Subject	Re: What is "complexifying" C?
Date	2015-03-19 23:06 +0100
Organization	lccwin
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Le 19/03/2015 16:37, Greg Martin a écrit :
> Well, sure. Let's add constructors-destructors, lambdas, closures and
> range iterators to C. While we're at it lets call it Ruby++.

It is appalling the lack of arguments that you show here.

FORTRAN has operator overloading and did not change its name to Ruby++ 
either.

What C++ hasn't got is the art of knowing WHEN TO STOP adding features. 
What you do not get is when some features are necessary!

HOW do you solve the problem of adding new numerical types to the language?

Look at what happened with complex numbers. There are MANY ways of doing 
a complex division, if you care about speed, or accuracy or robustness, 
or other criteria. With the language solution you

1) Complexify enormously ALL the C implementations that have to add that 
feature.

2) You tie the user to its implementation decisions. He/she can't change 
the way a complex division is done.

Can you propose another solution?

And please, telling us "I don't use any new numerical types" is NOT a 
solution.

Thanks

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What is "complexifying"  C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-16 22:55 +0100
  Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-16 22:55 +0000
    Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-16 16:41 -0700
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-03-17 00:05 +0000
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 01:12 +0000
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-03-25 13:58 -0700
    Re: What is "complexifying"  C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 07:16 +0100
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-17 13:50 +0000
        Re: What is "complexifying"  C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 14:59 +0100
          Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 15:22 +0100
            Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-17 16:16 +0100
          Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-03-17 14:39 +0000
          Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-17 15:23 +0000
        Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-18 15:40 -0700
        Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2015-03-18 22:49 +0000
          Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-19 13:55 +0000
            Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-19 15:37 +0000
              Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-03-19 23:06 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-19 22:38 +0000
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-20 19:43 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? jacob navia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> - 2015-03-20 07:49 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-20 02:29 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-20 21:37 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-20 03:40 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-20 10:18 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-21 00:19 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-20 03:15 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-22 13:51 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-22 15:21 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-22 00:57 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-22 22:28 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-03-22 02:59 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-22 11:16 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 07:25 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-22 12:06 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 17:01 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-23 03:09 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-03-23 01:42 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-22 19:32 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-22 17:34 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-22 20:07 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-23 00:00 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 18:04 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-23 23:22 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-22 14:54 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-23 00:35 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 17:06 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 17:25 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-22 23:33 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-23 18:01 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-03-23 09:41 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-03-23 10:23 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-24 07:10 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2015-03-23 14:57 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-24 09:36 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-03-24 08:42 +0000
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-03-24 11:23 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2015-03-24 10:52 +0000
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? raltbos@xs4all.nl (Richard Bos) - 2015-03-29 16:58 +0000
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-22 02:38 +0100
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2015-03-22 09:11 -0400
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2015-03-20 06:30 -0500
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-20 10:31 +0000
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-20 13:49 +0000
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-20 09:23 -0700
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-21 08:28 +1300
                Re: What is "complexifying" C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-20 01:04 -0700
    Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-03-17 08:05 -0700
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 16:08 +0100
        Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-03-17 11:09 -0700
          Re: What is "complexifying"  C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 21:37 +0100
            Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-18 00:40 -0500
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 15:34 +0000
    Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 15:06 +0000
  Re: What is "complexifying" C? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-17 00:05 +0100
  Re: What is "complexifying" C? Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-03-16 23:20 +0000
  Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-17 16:42 +1300
  Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-17 08:59 -0500
    Re: What is "complexifying"  C? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2015-03-17 15:18 +0100
    Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-17 14:41 +0000
      Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-18 15:47 -0700
        Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-19 00:26 +0000
          Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-19 03:23 -0700
            Re: What is "complexifying"  C? Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-03-19 11:19 +0000

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