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Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal

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From William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com>
Subject Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
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Date 2011-08-04 12:10 -0700

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Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> wrote:
<snip>
> What's worse than the endless extension of copyright is that Digital
> Millennium Copyright Act extends *all* copyrights *automatically*,
> without requiring renewal, even if they haven't been selling for
> decades.  For every Micky Mouse movie that's still producing revenue,
> there's a million orphaned works that can't be photocopied by an entity
> that scrupulously respects copyright and yet the copyright owner can't
> be found to seek permission.

I believe that's the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act. I was told by
someone who worked at the DoJ--where the draft committee worked--that the
Disney lawyer was there every day for many months, like a regular employee.
To say that Disney had a hand in drafting the bill is an understatement. To
be fair, for all I know there was a lawyer for the American Library
Association there as well. Although, my intuition is that only someone like
Disney could afford to dedicate an experienced lawyer to the matter for such
an extended period of time. Face time matters.

Still, this is how standards committees work as well. HTML5 is a collusion
of all the big incumbent players (Mozilla, Safari, IE). XHTML 2.0 was much
more open and allowed for more innovative and niche uses (especially
server-side), but the incumbents hemmed and hawed and got their way.

Same thing with the C1x standard. Some of the new features are on the cusp
of awesome (like _Generic), but only go far enough to please the incumbents
without too much concern for future use by new players. Other interfaces
(e.g. Annex K) are just ridiculous cruft intended only to further the
political goals of one or a few incumbents. Although perhaps the Annex
facility was designed to divert such pressures so they don't corrupt the
core standard too much.

On the flip side, it's worth pointing out that concessions are made for
incumbents because they're the ones most invested in the status quo, clearly
effected by any changes, and presumably possess a deeper insight into the
issues. Maybe _Generic is awesome enough, and the Annex K interfaces will
actually be used by real developers.

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Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-08-01 17:19 +0000
  Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2011-08-01 11:36 -0600
    Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-08-01 10:40 -0700
      Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2011-08-01 18:15 +0000
  Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-01 21:57 +0100
    Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> - 2011-08-02 00:28 +0100
      Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal John Gordon <gordon@panix.com> - 2011-08-02 00:45 +0000
        Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> - 2011-08-04 00:27 +0100
          Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal China Blue Peter <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-03 17:21 -0700
            Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-08-04 09:36 -0700
              Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2011-08-04 12:10 -0700
        Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal mt <mahdert@gmail.com> - 2011-08-04 12:51 -0700
          Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-08-05 07:30 -0400
            Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal "J. J. Farrell" <jjf@bcs.org.uk> - 2011-08-08 00:03 +0100
              Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-08-08 15:58 +0000
      Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 07:40 +0100
        Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-08-02 11:42 +0000
          Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 13:40 +0100
            Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-08-02 15:13 +0000
              Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 16:32 +0100
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 15:59 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 17:09 +0100
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-08-02 16:11 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 19:50 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-08-02 20:29 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 20:56 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-08-02 21:05 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 21:32 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-02 21:13 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 21:41 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-08-02 23:55 -0700
                [OT] Copyright infringement != Theft Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2011-08-03 10:50 +0200
                Re: [OT] Copyright infringement != Theft Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-08-03 08:51 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Light the China Blue Touch Paper <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-02 13:40 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2011-08-02 14:31 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Light the China Blue Touch Paper <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-02 19:23 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-08-02 23:39 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-08-03 03:15 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-08-03 09:01 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Todd Carnes <toddcarnes@gmail.com> - 2011-08-03 22:46 +0000
              Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Seebs <usenet-nospam@seebs.net> - 2011-08-02 16:06 +0000
              Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Light the China Blue Touch Paper <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-02 13:15 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 20:39 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 21:49 +0100
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 21:25 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 22:49 +0100
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 22:11 +0000
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-08-03 00:02 -0700
                Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Light the China Blue Touch Paper <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2011-08-02 13:58 -0700
    Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 12:12 +0000
      Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 13:40 +0100
        [OT] Copyright infringement != Theft Noob <root@127.0.0.1> - 2011-08-02 16:52 +0200
        Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Angel <angel+news@spamcop.net> - 2011-08-02 15:55 +0000
          Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal tactical <1@2.3> - 2011-08-02 17:12 +0100
          Re: instructor's solutions manual for Digital Control & State Variable Methods 2nd Ed by Madan Gopal Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-08-02 16:15 +0000

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