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Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one

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Date 2014-12-10 09:29 -0600
Subject Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one
From Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.python
Message-ID <mailman.16809.1418225382.18130.python-list@python.org> (permalink)

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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:14 AM, ast <nomail@invalid.com> wrote:
> I have the idea to write:
>
> def __init__(center=(0,0), radius=10, mass=None)):
>
>    if  mass == None:        self.mass = radius**2
>    else:
>        self.mass = mass
>
> but maybe Python provides something clever.

This is almost the correct idiom. In general, pick defaults from
values outside your valid domain. None is often perfect for
this. Since you're comparing to a singleton value, "is" is the usual
comparison, so your code becomes:

def __init__(center=(0,0), radius=10, mass=None)):
    if mass is None:
        self.mass = radius**2
    else:
        self.mass = mass

At the programming level, Python generally tries not to be too clever,
especially for real basic stuff. From the Zen of Python:

    >>> import this
    The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters

    ...
    Explicit is better than implicit.
    ...

Guido could have been more clever here, but it wouldn't have likely
gained much (you'd still have to detect the default and set the value
appropriately), and perhaps made the code a (small) bit harder to
read.

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How to detect that a function argument is the default one "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2014-12-10 16:14 +0100
  Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-12-10 09:29 -0600
    Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2014-12-10 16:45 +0100
    Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-12-10 18:33 +0200
  Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-11 03:16 +1100
    Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-12-10 12:08 -0800
    Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one "ast" <nomail@invalid.com> - 2014-12-10 22:17 +0100
      Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-11 11:03 -0700
      Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-11 11:07 -0700
  Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Ned Batchelder <ned@nedbatchelder.com> - 2014-12-10 11:19 -0500
  Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-12-10 09:20 -0700
  Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Tony the Tiger <tony@tiger.invalid> - 2014-12-11 19:45 +0000
    Re: How to detect that a function argument is the default one Ben Finney <ben+python@benfinney.id.au> - 2014-12-12 10:03 +1100

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