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Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "?

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On 11/12/2014 4:02 PM, John Ladasky wrote:
> I have taught Python to several students over the past few years.  As
> I have worked with my students, I find myself bothered by the
> programming idiom that we use to determine whether a module is being
> executed or merely imported:
>
> "if __name__ == '__main__':"
>
> The use of two dunder tokens -- one as a name in a namespace, and the
> other as a string, is intimidating.  It exposes too much of Python's
> guts.  As such, I think that it is less Pythonic than we might want.
> Myself, I've been programming in Python for a decade, and I still
> haven't dug very deeply into what exactly __name__ means or does.
>
> I would like to start a discussion about whether Python should
> include a function which executes this evaluation, and hides all of
> the unfriendly dunderish details.  And if that's a good idea, I would
> invite a discussion of how, exactly, it should be implemented.  I'm
> nowhere near proposing a PEP, but that may come later.

Functions have an implicit 'return None' at the end (which, in CPython, 
become an explicit pair of bytecodes, even when the function already 
ends with return something'.  The simplest proposal is that modules have 
an implicit "if __name__ == '__main__': main()" at the end.  I think 
this would not have to be added to the bytecode.

This magical invocation mimics C and some other languages, and I think 
it works well.

-- 
Terry Jan Reedy

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How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 13:02 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 16:07 -0500
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 13:17 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-11-12 13:19 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-11-12 13:33 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-12 23:52 +0200
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 14:51 -0700
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 15:55 -0600
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-11-12 14:09 -0800
    Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-15 22:09 +1100
      Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-15 13:54 +0200
      Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 11:26 +0100
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 15:19 -0700
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-11-12 18:19 -0500
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 10:26 +1100
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-11-12 19:35 -0500
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 11:54 +1100
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-11-13 10:32 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 13:33 -0700
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-11-13 12:43 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 14:44 -0600
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 14:53 -0600
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 15:48 -0700
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 15:56 -0700
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-15 21:52 +1100
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 11:39 +0100
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 10:15 -0700
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-12-01 15:19 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-12-01 16:45 -0800
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-02 12:15 +1100
  Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-12-02 02:17 -0800

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