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| From | Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.python |
| Subject | Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? |
| Date | 2014-11-12 23:52 +0200 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <8761ekqe6u.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> (permalink) |
| References | <71b9a111-283f-4006-bc9d-e35782d9888c@googlegroups.com> |
John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net>:
> I find myself bothered by the programming idiom that we use to
> determine whether a module is being executed or merely imported:
>
> "if __name__ == '__main__':"
I find the idiom cute and loveably silly. A typing tongue twister of
sorts. That boilerplate is far less cumbersome than, say, in Java.
> Myself, I've been programming in Python for a decade, and I still
> haven't dug very deeply into what exactly __name__ means or does.
The idiom allows you to include a main function in auxiliary modules.
When imported, the module acts as a library. When executed, it acts as a
command. I have done this a couple of times IRL.
> I would like to start a discussion about whether Python should include
> a function which executes this evaluation, and hides all of the
> unfriendly dunderish details.
Probably not. Idioms are important in that they are immediately spotted
by a casual reader of the code. However ugly you consider those two
lines, it will not waste a measurable amount of your precious time to
begin your brand new project by typing:
import sys
def main():
pass
if __name__ == "__main__":
main()
Yes, I always type those in again. I don't copy them over as I do, say,
Java main programs or static HTML pages.
Marko
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How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 13:02 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Joel Goldstick <joel.goldstick@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 16:07 -0500
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? John Ladasky <john_ladasky@sbcglobal.net> - 2014-11-12 13:17 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-11-12 13:19 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-11-12 13:33 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-12 23:52 +0200
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 14:51 -0700
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 15:55 -0600
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Kaynor <ckaynor@zindagigames.com> - 2014-11-12 14:09 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-15 22:09 +1100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2014-11-15 13:54 +0200
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 11:26 +0100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-12 15:19 -0700
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-11-12 18:19 -0500
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 10:26 +1100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Terry Reedy <tjreedy@udel.edu> - 2014-11-12 19:35 -0500
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 11:54 +1100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-11-13 10:32 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 13:33 -0700
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-11-13 12:43 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 14:44 -0600
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Skip Montanaro <skip.montanaro@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 14:53 -0600
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 15:48 -0700
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-13 15:56 -0700
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-11-15 21:52 +1100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Vito De Tullio <vito.detullio@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 11:39 +0100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com> - 2014-11-16 10:15 -0700
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-12-01 15:19 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-12-01 16:45 -0800
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2014-12-02 12:15 +1100
Re: How about some syntactic sugar for " __name__ == '__main__' "? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-12-02 02:17 -0800
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