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Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now!

From SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Subject Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now!
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Date 2018-09-01 18:48 +0000

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On Sat, 01 Sep 2018 17:46:07 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-01, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 18:09:03 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>
>>> On 2018-08-30, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 14:23:06 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> RonB wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>Linux Mint Mate for me — not even the newest version. I don't need
>> the
>>>>>>"latest and greatest." Just need a great distro. But I like the way
>>>>>>you can choose a Linux distribution based on your own priorities.
>>>>>>Maybe if I was younger (or was a developer) I would be more
>>>>>>interested in "cutting edge."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recall trolling fsckwits whining when a new *word processor*
>>>>> version came-out, that there was some delay before it showed-up in
>>>>> the distro's repository.  Thus the only choices were a "difficult
>>>>> install process" or (*gasp*) WAITING A FEW DAYS for it to show-up in
>>>>> the repository!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just gotta have that latest and greatest word processor version, you
>>>>> know!  Sheesh.
>>>>
>>>> Funny enough, one of the cool things about running Linux is that you
>>>> no longer care what version of software you're running (except in the
>>>> case of Debian where everything is really outdated). A new version is
>>>> only good if there's a feature you want that has been implemented.
>>>> Otherwise,
>>>> nobody should care.
>>> 
>>> That's right. And it's natural for users to stick with what they're
>>> familiar with. Look how long people stuck with Windows XP even though
>>> Microsoft was basically begging them to upgrade for years.
>>
>> And they wanted them to first upgrade to something prettier but much
>> heavier (Vista), something which provided no real benefit other than
>> some supposed security improvements (7), something which forced them
>> into an unfamiliar interface and tried to sell useless software through
>> a flawed store (8) and then something which was both heavier, arguably
>> prettier, more secure but suddenly bundled with both ads and
>> surveillance (10). Usually, people are only in the market for something
>> better than what they already have.
> 
> Yeah, there was all that also. But a big part of it is that many (if not
> most) people just want to use a computer – they don't want to relearn it
> every six months. Besides, Windows upgrades have a tendency to break
> things,
> sometimes rendering formerly good applications useless.

I mentioned it in an earlier post but while Windows 8 still ran the old 
game Freedom Force fairly well, Windows 10 completely broke it (and I 
still haven't gotten around to actually playing it). Meanwhile, in Linux, 
it runs beautifully now with Steam Play. One operating system is actively 
trying to increase its list of available software while the other is 
actively trying to reduce its library of existing software in favour of 
new titles alone. Blu-Ray software is another interesting thing. My 
computer came with software that can play the medium, but it constantly 
bombards you with ads asking you to upgrade to the latest version. If you 
do, the new version will bombard you with ads to upgrade to the newer 
version once a year goes by. Meanwhile, VLC just plays the medium (if you 
configure it to) and doesn't give a shit if you're not running the latest 
version of the software.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2018-08-23 19:29 +0200
  Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:51 -0700
  Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-23 18:39 +0000
    Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-23 18:49 +0000
      Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-23 19:10 +0000
        Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-23 12:20 -0700
        Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 12:24 -0700
        Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2018-08-29 21:19 +0200
          Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-29 21:51 +0000
            Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 18:51 +0000
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-30 19:21 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:55 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-31 18:22 +0000
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 14:23 -0500
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-30 13:09 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-30 22:11 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-30 19:44 -0400
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-31 12:54 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-31 11:01 -0400
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-31 22:17 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:09 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-31 11:46 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-01 16:43 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 17:46 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-01 18:48 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 01:45 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-01 19:41 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 03:08 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-02 13:25 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 06:46 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 12:27 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:42 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 09:05 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 16:20 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 23:45 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 04:58 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 04:22 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 13:14 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:14 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:02 -0500
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:53 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-30 19:42 -0400
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:04 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-08-31 23:22 +0200
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-31 22:20 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-08-31 22:51 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 02:15 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-01 07:35 -0400
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-30 22:09 +0000
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2018-08-31 08:43 +0200
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:12 +0000

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