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Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now!

From SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Subject Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now!
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
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Organization blocknews - www.blocknews.net
Date 2018-09-01 16:43 +0000

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On Fri, 31 Aug 2018 18:09:03 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-08-30, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> On Thu, 30 Aug 2018 14:23:06 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>
>>> RonB wrote:
>>> 
>>>>Linux Mint Mate for me — not even the newest version. I don't need 
the
>>>>"latest and greatest." Just need a great distro. But I like the way
>>>>you can choose a Linux distribution based on your own priorities.
>>>>Maybe if I was younger (or was a developer) I would be more interested
>>>>in "cutting edge."
>>> 
>>> I recall trolling fsckwits whining when a new *word processor* version
>>> came-out, that there was some delay before it showed-up in the
>>> distro's repository.  Thus the only choices were a "difficult install
>>> process" or (*gasp*) WAITING A FEW DAYS for it to show-up in the
>>> repository!
>>> 
>>> Just gotta have that latest and greatest word processor version, you
>>> know!  Sheesh.
>>
>> Funny enough, one of the cool things about running Linux is that you no
>> longer care what version of software you're running (except in the case
>> of Debian where everything is really outdated). A new version is only
>> good if there's a feature you want that has been implemented.
>> Otherwise,
>> nobody should care.
> 
> That's right. And it's natural for users to stick with what they're
> familiar with. Look how long people stuck with Windows XP even though
> Microsoft was basically begging them to upgrade for years.

And they wanted them to first upgrade to something prettier but much 
heavier (Vista), something which provided no real benefit other than some 
supposed security improvements (7), something which forced them into an 
unfamiliar interface and tried to sell useless software through a flawed 
store (8) and then something which was both heavier, arguably prettier, 
more secure but suddenly bundled with both ads and surveillance (10). 
Usually, people are only in the market for something better than what 
they already have. 

>> Microsoft Solitaire Collection on my Android phone was recently updated
>> to the latest version too. The change? MORE ADS! Boy do I feel blessed!
> 
> I downloaded Angry Birds Rio for the Fire tablet and now have ads
> constantly. Originally they had no ads. I would probably buy the ad-free
> version if I used it much (actually I did buy the Windows version of
> three Angry Birds applications and ran them under Wine a few years ago).
> I'm not much of a game player.

So they upgraded your existing software to include ads. Disgusting 
behaviour on their part. I imagine that they don't even give you an 
option to buy a version without them either.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2018-08-23 19:29 +0200
  Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 10:51 -0700
  Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-23 18:39 +0000
    Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-23 18:49 +0000
      Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-23 19:10 +0000
        Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-23 12:20 -0700
        Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-08-23 12:24 -0700
        Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2018-08-29 21:19 +0200
          Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-29 21:51 +0000
            Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-30 18:51 +0000
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-30 19:21 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 17:55 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-08-31 18:22 +0000
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-30 14:23 -0500
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-30 13:09 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-30 22:11 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-30 19:44 -0400
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-31 12:54 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-31 11:01 -0400
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-31 22:17 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:09 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-08-31 11:46 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-01 16:43 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 17:46 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-01 18:48 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 01:45 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-01 19:41 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 03:08 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-02 13:25 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 06:46 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 12:27 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 19:42 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 09:05 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 16:20 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 23:45 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 04:58 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 04:22 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 13:14 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-03 20:14 -0700
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:02 -0500
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:53 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-08-30 19:42 -0400
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:04 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-08-31 23:22 +0200
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-31 22:20 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-08-31 22:51 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-01 02:15 +0000
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-01 07:35 -0400
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-08-30 22:09 +0000
              Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2018-08-31 08:43 +0200
                Re: openSUSE Tumbleweed gets Linux kernel 4.18. Update now! RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-08-31 18:12 +0000

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