Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration

From	benj <none@gmail.com>
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Subject	Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration
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On 04/13/2016 02:16 AM, jay moseley wrote:
> Sam
>> Hubble's Law was derived from observations, Jay. You can look it up with DuckDuckGo
>
> Ah, its a search engine.! I thought you were telling me to f off.
> But the spectral shift is an observation. It is only an *assumption*
> that shift observed for galaxies is doppler related. And this ignores
> the fact that the cosmological shift also is directly related to distance
> from earth. Whereas the shift within galaxies ( rotational curves)
> are directly related to the center of each galaxy. And THATS an
> observation that was ignored!
> It was einsteins photon model that prevented hubble at al to
> assume frequency decay. Too many reputations were at stake.
> So there is NO scientific basis to the *assumptions* made in hubbles
> law. Only hubris.
> And there was and still is no contravention of conservation law
> to allow frequency decay over distance for a wave only model of emr.
> Whereas there IS a contravention of conservation law to assume
> the BBT. Two counts of decisions made on an unscientific basis for
> Hubbles law and the BBT.

Jay has hit the nail on the head, although the "tired light" theory is 
not quite correct. Sam just parrots his religious dogma. And that dogma 
is based upon a major mistake. That mistake is to assume that the red 
shifted star spectra are due to Doppler shift from velocity. But before 
we get too far afield allow me to point out that there IS Doppler shift 
due to velocity of sources. This makes for variation in light 
frequencies due to relative motions of source and observer. But the key 
is that the MAJOR red shift observed increasing with distance that is 
assumed due to velocities imparted by the "Big Bang" is simply a big fat 
mistake. That is not due to velocities.

A wonderful story has been concocted that plays great with the 
breathless science shows on PBS, but sadly it's simply wrong. The "Big 
Bang" is destined for the same dust bin as phlogiston and Maxwell 
displacement currents.

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Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 17:20 -0700
  Odd, explain equal universal acceleration HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 03:27 -0700
  Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:12 -0500
    Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 06:21 -0700
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          Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-11 08:22 -0700
            Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:34 -0700
              Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-11 21:05 +0000
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 16:23 -0500
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-11 17:40 -0700
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:06 -0500
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:08 -0700
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:31 -0500
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-04-12 14:11 -0700
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:45 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 04:49 -0400
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:48 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:47 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:12 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 13:49 -0700
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:51 -0500
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 13:02 -0400
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:09 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:35 -0500
            Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 09:01 -0700
              Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-11 09:33 -0700
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        Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 11:12 -0500
      Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-11 14:23 +0000
        Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:44 -0700
          Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-11 15:06 +0000
            Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-04-11 09:04 -0700
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              Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 09:45 -0700
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:08 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:57 -0500
                spatial (two p.t's noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:54 -0700
                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:54 -0500
              Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:52 -0500
          Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-04-13 12:46 -0700
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