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Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
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Subject Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration
Date 2016-04-11 13:57 -0500
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On 4/11/2016 12:08 PM, john wrote:
> LOL
> Universal expansion works for
> a theoretical unbounded rod,
> (although the ends very quickly
> outrun lightspeed),

They do relative to us, but that's NOT A PROBLEM. There's a nice SciAm 
article from about 10 years ago that clears up that misconception for 
ordinary amateurs.

> but as soon as you let things go
> more than one way, stuff starts
> running into each other

Nope. Look at the example I gave of the balls on a grid.
Nothing runs into anything else.

> ESPECIALLY in 3D
> and there's no way
> it would show as uniform redshift.

No, just the opposite. Stuff further away would be redshifted more.

> Just my  opinion.
> Universal redshift is just tired light
>


-- 
Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-10 17:20 -0700
  Odd, explain equal universal acceleration HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 03:27 -0700
  Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 07:12 -0500
    Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 06:21 -0700
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            Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 08:34 -0700
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:51 -0500
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 12:09 -0500
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        Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 11:12 -0500
      Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-04-11 14:23 +0000
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              Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration HVAC <mr.hvac@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 09:45 -0700
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                Re: Odd, explain equal universal acceleration Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:57 -0500
                spatial (two p.t's noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-04-11 13:54 -0700
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