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Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe
Date 2025-04-28 03:25 +0000
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On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 14:37:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> The Gazans have a reason to hate Jews, but they would have hated them
> regardless of whether anything had been done to them. Heck, the entire
> religion advocates for a hatred of both Christians and Jews, the latter
> of which was on the pretense that they had persecuted Muhammad.

It wasn't a bed of roses but arguably the Jews did better under the 
Moslems in al-Andalus than in Christian Europe during the same period. 
Earlier the Visigoths had no use for Jews and after the Reconquista 
maranos were treated with suspicion and in 1492 Columbus and practicing 
Jews left. (separate events although some claim Columbus had a Jew 
onboard)  Spain was more or less Judenrein until 1968 after Vatican II 
published 'Nostra aetate' saying Jews weren't really Christ-killers.

Likewise the Ottoman Empire had its up and downs but many Jews relocated 
there from Christian controlled areas. 

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(OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 09:19 +0000
  Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 09:02 -0400
  Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-17 19:41 +0000
    Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 17:48 -0400
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:09 +0000
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 20:46 -0400
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-17 21:36 -0500
          Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-18 06:08 +0000
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 06:14 +0000
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-18 14:46 -0500
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-19 09:04 -0500
              Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-19 19:54 -0500
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-20 05:02 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-30 09:35 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-30 21:53 -0400
    Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:04 +0000
    Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-18 01:38 +0000
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:25 -0700
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-18 02:45 +0000
          Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 06:23 -0700
    Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-18 07:00 -0500
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-18 10:09 -0400
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-18 18:15 +0000
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 12:33 -0700
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:39 +0000
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:34 +0000
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 13:35 -0700
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-19 00:30 +0000
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-19 20:02 -0500
  Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-17 16:05 -0500
    Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 17:49 -0400
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 14:55 +0100
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-18 10:19 -0400
          Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-19 09:11 -0500
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 15:39 +0100
              Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 07:48 -0700
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:46 -0400
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 12:29 -0700
    Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:10 +0000
      Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 14:57 +0100
        Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:41 +0000
          Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 22:01 +0100
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 21:10 +0000
              Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 14:18 -0700
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 07:56 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 14:36 +0100
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:13 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 18:21 +0100
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 12:25 -0700
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 04:40 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-21 07:50 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 21:52 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-21 21:04 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 06:05 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-22 08:51 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 05:12 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-23 07:45 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 04:38 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 12:46 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-23 08:43 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 12:58 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-24 09:09 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 01:22 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-24 21:33 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-25 05:34 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-25 09:26 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 02:37 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 07:41 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 02:35 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-26 08:08 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 05:55 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 08:14 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 07:41 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-26 12:40 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 08:58 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:30 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:29 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-27 08:01 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 18:46 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-27 14:46 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:13 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-27 14:37 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 03:25 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:36 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 06:39 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 07:20 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:23 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:52 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 19:46 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 16:42 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 03:43 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:20 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 20:47 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:25 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:44 -0500
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 20:14 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 06:04 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:22 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 20:49 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:26 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 03:38 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 06:08 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-28 08:24 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 18:33 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:43 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 18:40 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 16:37 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 03:20 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:18 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 20:46 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:23 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 20:00 -0700
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-25 09:25 -0400
              Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 22:34 +0100
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-19 20:04 -0500
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:28 -0500
            Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 07:53 -0400
              Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 14:36 +0100
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:14 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 18:26 +0100
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:47 -0400
              Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-19 13:48 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:15 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-20 10:39 -0400
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-20 15:26 +0000
                Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 09:06 -0700

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