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Re: Can't connect to laptop

From Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Can't connect to laptop
Date 2025-04-27 19:12 +0200
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On 27/04/2025 15:32, Paul wrote:
> On Sun, 4/27/2025 7:30 AM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> On 27/04/2025 12:50, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My wife has a W11 Pro laptop. It is visable in the network but I can't
>>>> open it. Her network detection is on, just as file and printer sharing.
>>>> It is on a private network.
>>>> When I try to open it from my pc, I get the message "Windows cannot
>>>> access" the name of her laptop. Error code 0x80070035.
>>>> This code says how to Enable NetBIOS over TCP / IP. I did and restarted
>>>> the laptop.
>>>> I still can't open it from my pc. All other pc's I can open, so this is
>>>> a problem with her laptop.
>>>> What else can I do to open it and access the folders and files?
>>>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> Is your wife's computer assigned to the same workgroup as the remote
>>> host to which she tries to connect?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> https://www.pcworld.com/article/2191054/windows-11-how-to-set-up-a-network.html
>>>
>>> That mentions the step where you decide in which workgroup your host is
>>> assigned.  Hosts in the same workgroup can work with each other.  For
>>> example, you might have SOHO hosts for work-use only that you don't want
>>> your wife, kids, or anyone else on your intranet to access.  The default
>>> workgroup name is "WORKGROUP" (I don't think it needs to be uppercase).
>>>
>>> The PCworld article fails to mention just how you get directly into the
>>> System Properties config tool without having to walk through some setup
>>> wizard.  Run:
>>>
>>> sysdm.cpl
>>>
>>> Under the General tab, click Change (your computer name).  The next
>>> dialog lets you specify the workgroup name.  Your wife needs to use the
>>> same workgroup name as your other intranet hosts to which she wants to
>>> connect.
>>
>> All pc's and laptops use WORKGROUP.
>>
>>> In Control Panel (control.exe), select "Network and Sharing Center", is
>>> your wife's computer in a private or public network.  Intranet sharing
>>> requires using a private network.  Public is, well, when you're on a
>>> public network, and don't want anyone accessing your host.
>>
>> It's private.
>>
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/essential-network-settings-and-tasks-in-windows-f21a9bbc-c582-55cd-35e0-73431160a1b9
>>> which says:
>>> - Public network (Recommended). Use this for networks you connect to at
>>>     home, work, or in a public place. You should use this in most cases.
>>>     Your PC will be hidden from other devices on the network. Therefore,
>>>     you can’t use your PC for file and printer sharing.
>>> - Private network. Your PC is discoverable to other devices on the
>>>     network, and you can use your PC for file and printer sharing. You
>>>     should know and trust the people and devices on the network.
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't tell from:
>>>
>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/file-server/troubleshoot/detect-enable-and-disable-smbv1-v2-v3?tabs=server
>>>
>>> if SMBv2 and SMBv3 are enabled by default in Windows 11.  I've seen
>>> other posters mentioning having to enable SMB to get home networking to
>>> function, but I'm not sure if that is between Windows hosts using
>>> auto-discovery, or between Windows hosts to Mac, Linux, or NAS hosts.
>>>
>>> Another problem I've seen discussed is that you need to have a login
>>> that permits access.  Do the following:
>>
>> Shared folders are open for every one. In our local network that is safe.
>>
>>> - Open the run dialog (Win+R).
>>> - Run: control /name Microsoft.CredentialManager
>>> - Select Windows credentials.
>>> - Click Add Windows credential.
>>> - Enter your remote path with your Windows credentials.
>>>
>>> This is where I'm unsure about what to enter here.
>>>
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/credential-manager-in-windows-1b5c916a-6a16-889f-8581-fc16e8165ac0
>>>
>>> That was incomplete, and unhelpful in knowing on which host you define
>>> Windows credentials for the other host.
>>>
>>> My guess is that you run this on the host where you want to connect to
>>> your remote host.  Supply the IP address of your remote host, and the
>>> login credentials for a Windows account defined on the remote host.
>>> Using the IP address of the remote host should work.  You might be able
>>> to specify the hostname assigned to the remote host.
>>
>> Login credentials are not needed yet, as the laptop is completely unaccessible.
>>
>>> https://buffaloamericas.com/knowledge-base/adding-windows-credentials-of-your-nas-on-windows-10-or-windows-server-2019
>>>
>>> That has you use the Credentials Manager on your Windows host to add
>>> credentials for the NAS device (remote host).
>>
>> We don't have a NAS dvice.
>>
>>> https://www.1kosmos.com/identity-management/windows-credential-manager/
>>>
>>> pretty much says the same: define the credentials on your host for the
>>> remote host to which you want to connect.  I'm also guessing that you
>>> need to specify the login credentials for an admin-level account.  Do
>>> you have an admin account in Windows 11?  No, not the Administrator
>>> account, but a user account you created that is in the Administrators
>>> security group.  You can see to which security group a Windows account
>>> is assigned by running:
>>>
>>> net users <acctname>
>>>
>>> where <acctname> is the Windows account you want to check its info.  At
>>> the bottom is the list of local [security] groups to which that account
>>> is associated.  To get a list of accounts, and to which security group
>>> they are assigned, run:
>>>
>>> wmic useraccount list brief
>>>
>>> To see which accounts (users) are in a specific security group, run:
>>>
>>> net localgroup administrators
>>>
>>> That will list who is in the Administrators security group.  If you run:
>>>
>>> net localgroup
>>>
>>> you can see which security groups are in your instance of Windows (to
>>> know which to specify to find out which users are under a specific
>>> security group).
>>
> 
> It's not in the graphical menu, these troubleshooters do not always
> work that well, but give this a try.
> 
>     msdt.exe /id NetworkDiagnosticsFileShare

 From my pc: Troubleshoother couldn't identify the problem.
 From my wife's laptop: Troubleshooters are being moved and this utility 
is being retired.
Microsoft Support Diagnostic Tool (MSDT) and MSDT Troubleshooters are 
being deprecated.

>    Paul


With regards,
Fokke

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Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 11:58 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 05:50 -0500
    Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-27 07:11 -0400
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 13:33 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 19:31 +0200
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 13:30 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-27 09:32 -0400
        Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 10:19 -0500
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-27 11:25 -0400
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 19:12 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 17:53 +0000
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 11:53 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-27 14:42 -0400
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:12 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 21:20 -0500
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:26 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 07:58 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:31 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 11:24 -0500
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 18:59 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-27 13:03 -0400
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-27 19:19 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-27 21:54 -0500
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:37 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-28 13:35 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:33 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 08:37 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 16:09 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 09:53 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:40 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-01 13:05 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:44 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 16:30 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 18:53 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 17:31 +0000
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 12:42 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 08:06 -0400
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:35 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 09:35 -0500
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:40 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-29 04:12 -0500
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:46 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-27 18:46 +0100
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 13:02 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-28 14:15 +0100
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:39 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-28 19:31 -0500
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:29 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-04-29 08:52 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:47 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-01 12:19 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 15:05 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-01 16:59 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:47 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:06 -0500
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:00 +0000
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:48 +0200
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-28 12:26 -0400
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:47 +0200
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 09:39 -0400
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 11:59 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <Jack@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-28 03:46 +0000
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 15:43 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-28 16:52 +0000
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:51 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 20:07 +0000
            Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-29 17:25 -0400
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:50 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:04 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Jack <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-02 16:35 +0000
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:01 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-01 19:00 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:48 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-02 10:59 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 18:56 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-04 11:48 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 09:19 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 08:43 -0500
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 16:11 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-28 16:34 +0200
    Re: Can't connect to laptop knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-28 13:44 -0400
      Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 15:35 -0500
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 10:08 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-29 04:24 -0500
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:08 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-04-29 09:52 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-29 10:49 +0100
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 15:44 +0000
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:22 +0100
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:25 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:24 +0200
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-01 13:05 +0000
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:50 +0200
            Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 06:27 -0500
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 14:22 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 08:31 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:01 +0200
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-01 12:21 +0200
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-01 17:38 +0100
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 11:59 +0200
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 14:42 +0200
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 14:52 +0100
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:06 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 18:41 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 20:15 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 21:49 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 12:00 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-05 11:40 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 10:57 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-07 10:14 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:11 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-07 13:22 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-07 13:45 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:28 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-07 17:47 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 21:34 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:23 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-07 14:59 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 18:36 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-07 15:00 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 18:38 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-08 15:13 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 13:50 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 08:41 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-09 13:50 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 18:30 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 14:01 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:03 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Simon Jenkins <user@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-13 00:13 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 17:07 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-09 19:00 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:07 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-12 15:02 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 20:55 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-12 16:43 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:42 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-13 10:24 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:43 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 18:37 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 14:09 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:15 +0200
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                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:20 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-12 15:08 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 20:57 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-13 11:01 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-13 15:10 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:40 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-14 22:16 +0100
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                Re: Can't connect to laptop John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2025-05-17 21:58 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-17 17:32 -0400
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                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-15 15:39 +0000
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                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-07 16:58 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 13:56 +0200
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-02 15:01 +0100
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:12 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-02 23:12 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 12:01 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 11:13 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 13:36 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-05 12:59 +0000
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 10:59 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-05 14:14 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 15:10 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:01 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:00 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-05 15:08 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:02 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-05 11:44 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 13:38 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-05-05 11:49 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:03 +0200
    Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 13:16 -0500
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-01 22:34 +0100
        Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 18:42 -0500
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 02:55 +0100
            Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 22:23 -0500
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 11:17 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 06:05 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 13:28 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 13:46 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 08:46 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 14:58 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 10:30 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 18:14 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-02 10:34 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 18:37 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 19:15 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-03 01:34 -0500
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 12:10 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-05 12:11 +0100
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-05 13:42 +0200
            Re: Can't connect to laptop VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-05-01 22:25 -0500
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-02 11:24 +0100
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-02 12:02 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-05 14:42 +0000
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 11:06 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-07 15:41 +0200
    Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-07 17:41 +0100
      Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-09 14:14 +0200
        Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-09 15:05 -0400
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-05-10 00:33 +0100
          Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 14:25 +0200
            Re: Can't connect to laptop Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2025-05-12 14:29 +0100
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-12 20:59 +0200
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-12 16:51 -0400
                Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:44 +0200
              Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-14 18:42 +0200
  Re: Can't connect to laptop Fokke Nauta <fnauta@solfon.nl> - 2025-05-16 14:46 +0200

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