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Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux

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On 15 Mar 2025 11:13:20 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
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> On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:38:02 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote
> in <pan$30006$d20223f3$f7e49a4f$9fbc0d5@linux.rocks>:
> 
>> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:57:14 -0700, x wrote:
>> 
>>>  Linux however is not
>>> crippled and stifled in that way.  What add ons and operating systems
>>> now exist with 3 dimensional space as its GUI rather than a 2D one
>>> (like most GUIs)?
>>>
>>>
>> After a minute of searching, I found this on Reddit:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXv8VlpoK_g
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Looking_Glass
>> 
>> 
>> This 3D desktop project is now defunct and it never caught on.
>> 
>> I can see why.  3D GUIs are a stupid idea.  They are not an answer
>> looking for a question, but more like a hallucination looking for a
>> schizophrenic.
>> 
>> Accept the reality.  The ultimate GUI, that of 2D windows, keyboard,
>> and mouse, is already with us.  It will never get any better despite
>> many vain attempts to make it better.
>> 
>> It's just like a car.  With the steering wheel, brake and accelerator
>> pedals, and shift lever, we have attained the ultimate driver UI.  It
>> can never get any better despite idiotic attempts to do so.
> 
> I watched the video with interest.
> 
> I'm sort of agreeing with you (for a change!), but there are some ideas
> from the presentation that both made it in to Beryl/compiz, as well as
> could enhance the current desktop experience.
> 
> Regarding the latter, I thought that flipping a window around for
> annotations made sense -- or generally, annotated bookmarks of some
> sort, in a browser-independent fashion.  Also, I was intrigued by the CD
> picker application.  I think I would rather it show album covers, rather
> than CD's, but that's just me -- also, maybe better organization, since
> I have hundreds of music albums, and I can't imagine what that would
> look like in a carousel arrangement.
> 
> Regarding the former, I remember using Beryl to play a video with
> mplayer fullscreen, then rotating the cube to see the video playing on
> one face of the cube.  That's a cute trick, but it doesn't really help
> with much of anything -- but being able to push a video off to the side
> makes some sort of sense, if you have only one monitor.
> 
> Of course, if you have two monitors, you can just fullscreen your video
> on the second monitor.  (And on that note:  it's a shame that Linux's
> NVIDIA DP/HDMI audio drivers will only address one DP/HDMI port at a
> time, which means you can only drive one set of monitor-embedded
> speakers at a time.)
> 
> Finally, there's the fact that Beryl (and I assume, compiz) can have
> windows "float" over cube surfaces while rotating, which does give some
> 3D structure to the whole thing -- you can "see under" windows.  But
> nowadays -- with compositing window managers like xfce -- one can have a
> window be translucent while dragging it, so you can "see through" a
> window at what's underneath.  (I suppose one could call that a "2.5D
> window manager".)
> 
> Thank you for your post, Farley, that was good advocacy. :)

Also found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6xDqNhGeEM

https://github.com/collinalexbell/HackMatrix

Apparently prone to crashes, but there if someone wants
to play with it.  (The name sort of puts me in mind
of something that might not be "production" quality...)

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Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux x <x@x.org> - 2025-03-14 15:57 -0700
  Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 02:13 +0000
  Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-03-15 06:40 +0000
    Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-15 15:05 +0000
      Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 15:38 +0000
        Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-15 20:42 +0000
  Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-03-15 09:26 +0000
    Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 09:38 +0000
      Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-03-15 19:54 +0000
        Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-15 20:55 +0000
  Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-15 10:38 +0000
    Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 11:13 +0000
      Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-15 11:25 +0000
    Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-16 08:47 -0500
      Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-16 13:53 +0000
        Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-03-18 06:57 -0500
          Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-18 17:33 -0400
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        Re: Basic question about Linux versions - 3D Linux CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-17 08:43 -0400
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