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Re: M$ Copilot

From Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au>
Newsgroups aus.computers, aus.cars, aus.legal
Subject Re: M$ Copilot
Date 2024-11-22 11:22 +1100
Message-ID <lqa15fF55lrU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 22/11/2024 7:23 am, alvey wrote:
> Xeno wrote:
>> On 21/11/2024 9:32 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>> On 21/11/2024 6:36 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
>>>> On 21/11/24 18:19, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>> On 13/10/2024 4:28 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> been checking out copilot today, and noticed a couple of things. 
>>>>>> firstly, in any interaction with it, after it gives you the info 
>>>>>> you asked for, it asks you questions, and wants to start a 
>>>>>> dialogue. I thought that's a bit strange. why does it want me to 
>>>>>> tell it things about myself? and secondly.. I noticed it keeps a 
>>>>>> record of everything that's been said to it right from when you 
>>>>>> first used it. you can see your entire interaction by scrolling 
>>>>>> back thru the text, and you can save it, print it, have it 
>>>>>> translated, have it read aloud to you, or screenshot it. but guess 
>>>>>> what's the one thing you cannot do with it? you guessed.. delete 
>>>>>> it! so why is M$ asking us questions, and keeping a record of our 
>>>>>> interaction with copilot? could it possibly be to obtain as much 
>>>>>> info about us as possible and construct a profile? I bet it is. 
>>>>>> and even if we could delete our conversations from the copilot 
>>>>>> screen, that's no guarantee that M$ doesn't still have a record of 
>>>>>> everything that's been said!
>>>>>>
>>>>> I asked co-pilot to explain emergent gravity, this is what I got, 
>>>>> it asked for no personal data, or anything else
>>>>>
>>>>> explain emergent gravity
>>>>>
>>>>> Emergent gravity is a fascinating and relatively new idea in 
>>>>> theoretical physics that suggests gravity isn't a fundamental force 
>>>>> but rather an emergent phenomenon arising from more basic 
>>>>> underlying processes. Here's a breakdown:
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Emergent Gravity?
>>>>> Concept: Emergent gravity proposes that gravity emerges from the 
>>>>> quantum entanglement of small bits of spacetime information. It's 
>>>>> similar to how temperature emerges from the collective behavior of 
>>>>> countless microscopic particles.
>>>>>
>>>>> Origin: The idea was first proposed by theoretical physicist Erik 
>>>>> Verlinde in 2009. He suggested that gravity could be explained by 
>>>>> changes in entropy, a measure of disorder or randomness in a system2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Key Points
>>>>> Thermodynamic Roots: The theory is rooted in thermodynamics and 
>>>>> statistical mechanics. Just as temperature and pressure emerge from 
>>>>> microscopic interactions, gravity might emerge from the statistical 
>>>>> behavior of microscopic degrees of freedom3.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dark Matter: One of the intriguing aspects of emergent gravity is 
>>>>> that it offers an alternative explanation for the effects 
>>>>> attributed to dark matter. Instead of invoking unseen matter, it 
>>>>> suggests that gravitational anomalies could be due to quantum 
>>>>> effects2.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spacetime Curvature: In this framework, spacetime curvature and 
>>>>> gravity are seen as macroscopic manifestations of underlying 
>>>>> microscopic phenomena, similar to how fluid mechanics can describe 
>>>>> the behavior of a Bose-Einstein condensate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Challenges and Controversies
>>>>> Experimental Evidence: So far, there hasn't been strong 
>>>>> experimental support for emergent gravity. The theory is still 
>>>>> largely speculative and requires more research and testing1.
>>>>>
>>>>> Debate: The physics community is divided on the validity of 
>>>>> emergent gravity. While it's a clever idea, it hasn't yet provided 
>>>>> a comprehensive explanation that supersedes existing theories like 
>>>>> general relativity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Potential Implications
>>>>> New Understanding: If proven correct, emergent gravity could 
>>>>> revolutionize our understanding of gravity and the universe, 
>>>>> potentially eliminating the need for dark matter and offering new 
>>>>> insights into the nature of spacetime4.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a bold and intriguing idea that continues to spark debate and 
>>>>> research in the field of theoretical physics. What do you think 
>>>>> about this concept?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it asked you a question, dumbass
>>>>
>>> Nope, it asked for an opinion you little twit.
>>
>> Still phrased as a question hence postfixed by a question mark. The 
>> big giveaway were the first 4 words - "What do you think".
>>
>> I'll award the points to Felix here.
> 
> Nahhh. It's a KO. And felix didn't even throw a punch! Richo tripped 
> over his ego and face-planted the canvas.
> 
Ok, so it's 10-0 and Felix is awarded ten points and the match.
> 
> alvey
> 


-- 
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
       (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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M$ Copilot Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-13 17:28 +1100
  Re: M$ Copilot Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2024-10-14 07:10 +1100
    Re: M$ Copilot Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> - 2024-10-14 13:04 +0800
  Re: M$ Copilot Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-10-14 15:06 +1100
  Re: M$ Copilot Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2024-11-18 17:10 +1100
  Re: M$ Copilot Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-21 17:19 +1000
    Re: M$ Copilot MightyMouse <"squeak!"@theCheeseFactory.com> - 2024-11-21 19:36 +1100
      Re: M$ Copilot Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-21 20:32 +1000
        Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-21 23:16 +1100
          Re: M$ Copilot MightyMouse <"squeak!"@theCheeseFactory.com> - 2024-11-21 23:42 +1100
            Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-22 00:23 +1100
              Re: M$ Copilot Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-11-22 15:41 +1100
            Re: M$ Copilot alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 06:26 +1000
              Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-22 11:24 +1100
          Re: M$ Copilot alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 06:23 +1000
            Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-22 11:22 +1100
              Re: M$ Copilot Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-11-22 15:43 +1100

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