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Re: M$ Copilot

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On 22/11/2024 7:26 am, alvey wrote:
> MightyMouse wrote:
>> On 21/11/24 23:16, Xeno wrote:
>>> On 21/11/2024 9:32 pm, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>> On 21/11/2024 6:36 pm, MightyMouse wrote:
>>>>> On 21/11/24 18:19, Keithr0 wrote:
>>>>>> On 13/10/2024 4:28 pm, Mighty Mouse wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> been checking out copilot today, and noticed a couple of things. 
>>>>>>> firstly, in any interaction with it, after it gives you the info 
>>>>>>> you asked for, it asks you questions, and wants to start a 
>>>>>>> dialogue. I thought that's a bit strange. why does it want me to 
>>>>>>> tell it things about myself? and secondly.. I noticed it keeps a 
>>>>>>> record of everything that's been said to it right from when you 
>>>>>>> first used it. you can see your entire interaction by scrolling 
>>>>>>> back thru the text, and you can save it, print it, have it 
>>>>>>> translated, have it read aloud to you, or screenshot it. but 
>>>>>>> guess what's the one thing you cannot do with it? you guessed.. 
>>>>>>> delete it! so why is M$ asking us questions, and keeping a record 
>>>>>>> of our interaction with copilot? could it possibly be to obtain 
>>>>>>> as much info about us as possible and construct a profile? I bet 
>>>>>>> it is. and even if we could delete our conversations from the 
>>>>>>> copilot screen, that's no guarantee that M$ doesn't still have a 
>>>>>>> record of everything that's been said!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I asked co-pilot to explain emergent gravity, this is what I got, 
>>>>>> it asked for no personal data, or anything else
>>>>>>
>>>>>> explain emergent gravity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emergent gravity is a fascinating and relatively new idea in 
>>>>>> theoretical physics that suggests gravity isn't a fundamental 
>>>>>> force but rather an emergent phenomenon arising from more basic 
>>>>>> underlying processes. Here's a breakdown:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is Emergent Gravity?
>>>>>> Concept: Emergent gravity proposes that gravity emerges from the 
>>>>>> quantum entanglement of small bits of spacetime information. It's 
>>>>>> similar to how temperature emerges from the collective behavior of 
>>>>>> countless microscopic particles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Origin: The idea was first proposed by theoretical physicist Erik 
>>>>>> Verlinde in 2009. He suggested that gravity could be explained by 
>>>>>> changes in entropy, a measure of disorder or randomness in a system2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Key Points
>>>>>> Thermodynamic Roots: The theory is rooted in thermodynamics and 
>>>>>> statistical mechanics. Just as temperature and pressure emerge 
>>>>>> from microscopic interactions, gravity might emerge from the 
>>>>>> statistical behavior of microscopic degrees of freedom3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dark Matter: One of the intriguing aspects of emergent gravity is 
>>>>>> that it offers an alternative explanation for the effects 
>>>>>> attributed to dark matter. Instead of invoking unseen matter, it 
>>>>>> suggests that gravitational anomalies could be due to quantum 
>>>>>> effects2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spacetime Curvature: In this framework, spacetime curvature and 
>>>>>> gravity are seen as macroscopic manifestations of underlying 
>>>>>> microscopic phenomena, similar to how fluid mechanics can describe 
>>>>>> the behavior of a Bose-Einstein condensate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Challenges and Controversies
>>>>>> Experimental Evidence: So far, there hasn't been strong 
>>>>>> experimental support for emergent gravity. The theory is still 
>>>>>> largely speculative and requires more research and testing1.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Debate: The physics community is divided on the validity of 
>>>>>> emergent gravity. While it's a clever idea, it hasn't yet provided 
>>>>>> a comprehensive explanation that supersedes existing theories like 
>>>>>> general relativity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Potential Implications
>>>>>> New Understanding: If proven correct, emergent gravity could 
>>>>>> revolutionize our understanding of gravity and the universe, 
>>>>>> potentially eliminating the need for dark matter and offering new 
>>>>>> insights into the nature of spacetime4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a bold and intriguing idea that continues to spark debate and 
>>>>>> research in the field of theoretical physics. What do you think 
>>>>>> about this concept?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> it asked you a question, dumbass
>>>>>
>>>> Nope, it asked for an opinion you little twit.
>>>
>>> Still phrased as a question hence postfixed by a question mark. The 
>>> big giveaway were the first 4 words - "What do you think".
>>>
>>> I'll award the points to Felix here.
>>>
>>
>> He's an idiot
> 
> When someone declares that, "What do you think about this concept?" 
> *isn't* a question, then that's a reasonable conclusion.
> 
> 
> alvey
>>
> 
And Keith has the temerity to call himself a Pom.

-- 
Xeno


Nothing astonishes Noddy so much as common sense and plain dealing.
       (with apologies to Ralph Waldo Emerson)

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    Re: M$ Copilot Ozix <ozix@xizo.am> - 2024-10-14 13:04 +0800
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  Re: M$ Copilot Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2024-11-18 17:10 +1100
  Re: M$ Copilot Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-21 17:19 +1000
    Re: M$ Copilot MightyMouse <"squeak!"@theCheeseFactory.com> - 2024-11-21 19:36 +1100
      Re: M$ Copilot Keithr0 <nothing.to.see@here.com.au> - 2024-11-21 20:32 +1000
        Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-21 23:16 +1100
          Re: M$ Copilot MightyMouse <"squeak!"@theCheeseFactory.com> - 2024-11-21 23:42 +1100
            Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-22 00:23 +1100
              Re: M$ Copilot Mighty Mouse <"squeak!"@thecheesefactory.com> - 2024-11-22 15:41 +1100
            Re: M$ Copilot alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 06:26 +1000
              Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-22 11:24 +1100
          Re: M$ Copilot alvey <Hans.Andnees@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 06:23 +1000
            Re: M$ Copilot Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> - 2024-11-22 11:22 +1100
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