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Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL

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James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
[...]
> Keep in mind that it is possible for the value of a pointer to become
> indeterminate without any change to it's bit patterns. There are real
> systems which have the ability to make blocks of memory switch from
> being valid to being invalid while a program is running, and because of
> the clauses listed above, a fully conforming implementation of free()
> could have that effect.
>
> I personally believe that such changes are the only permitted way for
> free() to render a pointer invalid - that it is not permitted to modify
> the bit pattern of the pointer itself. However, I've had extended
> discussions about that on this newsgroup with people who felt otherwise,
> with neither side ever accepting the validity of the other's arguments.
>
> Keep in mind that all pointers anywhere in the program that point at any
> part of an allocated block of memory have an indeterminate value after
> that block is deallocated. Nothing remotely resembling the normal
> semantics for C function calls would allow all of those pointers to have
> their bit patterns modified just by calling free() on one of those pointers.

A compiler could treat the free() function specially, but it's unlikely
that

    char *p = malloc(10);
    if (p ! NULL) {
        p ++;
        free(p-1);
    }

would modify the representation if p.

Furthermore, the bytes that make up the representation of p are
themselves objects which "retain their last-stored values between
program startup and program termination".

On the other hand, I seem to recall that there's a DR that says free()
*can* change the representation of a pointer object after its value is
passed to free().  I'll try to track it down later.

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Working, but not speaking, for JetHead Development, Inc.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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free a pointer and have it point to NULL G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2014-04-22 14:22 -0700
  Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-22 17:32 -0400
  Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL G G <gdotone@gmail.com> - 2014-04-22 14:36 -0700
  Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-22 14:37 -0700
    Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Johannes Bauer <dfnsonfsduifb@gmx.de> - 2014-04-29 13:10 +0200
      Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Richard <rgrdev_@gmail.com> - 2014-04-29 13:14 +0200
        Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2014-04-29 13:19 +0100
          Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-29 13:57 +0000
      Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-29 13:43 +0000
      Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-29 09:59 -0400
        Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-29 07:58 -0700
          Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-29 11:50 -0700
            Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-29 15:47 -0400
        Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-29 12:41 -0400
          Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2014-04-29 13:15 -0500
            Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-29 21:29 +0000
      Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-29 15:26 +0000
  Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2014-04-22 21:43 +0000
    Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2014-04-22 14:53 -0700
      Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2014-04-24 00:38 -0700
        Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2014-04-24 07:52 -0400
          Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2014-04-24 16:13 -0700
            Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-25 12:02 +1200
              Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2014-04-24 22:03 -0700
                Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2014-04-25 17:22 +1200
                Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2014-04-24 23:00 -0700
          Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> - 2014-04-27 08:32 -0700
    Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-04-22 16:19 -0600
      Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-22 22:41 +0000
        Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-04-22 18:17 -0600
          Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-04-24 08:48 -0600
    non-NULL pointers which have the value 0 (Was: Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL) Andrew Cooper <root@127.0.0.1> - 2014-04-23 03:28 +0100
      Re: non-NULL pointers which have the value 0 (Was: Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL) Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-23 04:37 +0000
      Re: non-NULL pointers which have the value 0 glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2014-04-23 06:14 +0000
  Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2014-04-22 22:18 +0000
  Re: free a pointer and have it point to NULL Michael Angelo Ravera <maravera@prodigy.net> - 2014-05-03 01:00 -0700

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