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Re: variadic function

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Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> writes:
> Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> writes:
[...]
>> When C was standardized in 1989, it *could have* been defined so that
>> excess arguments cause undefined behavior.  If it had, I don't believe
>> it would have caused any great inconvenience.  (Changing it now *would*
>> cause great inconvenience.)
>
> I believe behavior with printf(), etc, predates the first
> C standard by at least a decade.  At that time (ie, the
> late 1970's or earlier) there was no notion of undefined
> behavior - implementations just did what they did.  So
> what you're suggesting doesn't really make sense, historically.

The first C standard introduced the rule that calling printf() without a
proper declaration in scope has undefined behavior.  Prior to that, this
program:

    extern printf();
    main() { printf("Hello, world\n"); }

would have been well behaved (i.e., would print "Hello, world" under
most or all implementations).

The standard imposed a *lot* of restrictions that rendered the behavior
of some existing code undefined -- including, if I'm not mistaken, the
first "hello, world" program in K&R1 (I don't remember whether it had
"#include <stdio.h>" or not).

Adding a rule that calling printf() with excess arguments has undefined
behavior would have been consistent with that.

I'm not saying it would necessarily have been a good idea to impose such
a rule, but it wouldn't have been completely insane.

[...]

-- 
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org  <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
    Will write code for food.
"We must do something.  This is something.  Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

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variadic function Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2011-11-05 22:32 +0000
  Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-05 15:50 -0700
    Re: variadic function Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2011-11-07 17:41 +0000
  Re: variadic function James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-05 18:53 -0400
    Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-05 16:35 -0700
      Re: variadic function Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-06 01:36 +0000
  Re: variadic function Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-06 01:31 +0000
  Re: variadic function Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com> - 2011-11-06 09:45 -0800
    Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-06 11:38 -0800
      Re: variadic function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-24 23:24 -0800
        Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-25 02:54 -0800
          Re: variadic function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-01-31 18:22 -0800
            Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-01-31 21:50 -0800
              Re: variadic function James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-02-01 07:55 -0500
              Re: variadic function Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2012-02-01 08:06 -0500
                Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-01 11:42 -0800
              Re: variadic function Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2012-02-01 16:15 +0000
                Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-02-01 11:41 -0800
              Re: variadic function Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2012-02-01 13:41 -0500
                Re: variadic function blp@cs.stanford.edu (Ben Pfaff) - 2012-02-01 10:45 -0800
              Re: variadic function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-08 10:30 -0800
                Re: variadic function Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2012-03-08 13:57 -0800
                Re: variadic function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-09 13:10 -0800
                Re: variadic function jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-03-11 07:56 +0000
                Re: variadic function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-11 13:01 -0700
                Re: variadic function jgk@panix.com (Joe keane) - 2012-03-12 19:04 +0000
                Re: variadic function Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-03-13 15:05 -0700

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