Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net?

From	mike <ham789@netzero.net>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad, comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.freeware
Subject	Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net?
Date	2014-05-20 15:29 -0700
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
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On 5/20/2014 2:36 PM, Tommy wrote:
> "Lewis" <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote in message > In
> message <llevs7$pfd$1@dont-email.me>
>>  mike <ham789@netzero.net> wrote:
>>> On 5/20/2014 12:15 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
>>>> Pat Wilson <patwilson@example.com> writes:
>>
>>> Never eat anything that tastes good...that eliminates fat and sugar.
>>> Do that and you will loose weight and not gain it back at the end of
>>> your "diet".
>>
>> The human body has no mechanism to convert ingested fat into stored fat.
>> Eating Fat does not make you fat.
>
> Nope - its about sugar - its all about sugar :-)
>
> Begin Quote:-
> When you eat something sweet, your blood sugar levels increase too
> quickly, and your pancreas secretes the hormone insulin to take the
> excess sugar out of your blood.
> Insulin is a fat storage hormone. It stores that extra sugar first as
> glycogen, and then as triglycerides (fat) once glycogen stores are full.
>
> When insulin is activated, its partner hormone, glucagon, can’t operate.
> Glucagon’s job is to mobilize stored sugar back into the blood for
> energy use. These two hormones are constantly in a dance with each other
> and cannot be present in the blood at the same time.
>
> So either your body is in an energy-burning/mobilizing state (glucagon)
> or your body is in an energy storage state (insulin).
>
> Sugar mobilizes insulin; fat does not.
> It’s that simple. In fact, the fat in a sweet treat will actually help
> to slow down that sugar spike, and thus reduce the insulin surge,
> mitigating some of the ill-effects of the sweet. This is why the whole
> fat-free dessert thing is such a bad idea. Not only are you mobilizing a
> ton of insulin, you’re also removing the one thing in there that could
> slow that process down.
>
> Another piece to this puzzle is satiation. The digestion of fats
> triggers your satiation mechanism. This is why low-fat diets are doomed
> to fail and such an exercise in fierce willpower. Your body is never
> satisfied without fat, despite the number of calories (one more reason
> why calories aren’t the be all and end all).
>
> It’s quite the opposite with sugar or foods converting to sugar quickly
> in the blood (starchy carbs like bread, pastas, cereal, potatoes, etc…).
> These foods inspire overeating and binging in part because they don’t
> satiate and in part because of the insulin reaction we explained above.
> After insulin has done its job of storing that extra sugar as fat, guess
> what happens? Your blood sugar takes a big hit and you now are in a
> low-blood sugar space. What do you crave now? You got it… more sugar.
>
> This means: eating fat makes you fuller sooner and longer. Eating sugar
> leads to a sugar crash which makes you hungrier sooner and in a position
> to crave more sugar. A vicious cycle indeed.
>
> End Quotes
>
> Cheers
> Tommy
I have no basis to counter your statements, but it's counter to
what I believed.

Taken literally, your statements suggest that I can slather on the
butter, sour cream, cheese, mayo, etc. and not gain weight.

There must be more to the story.

I still maintain that people who stuff their face until they're full
are gonna weigh more than those who don't.

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Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Pat Wilson <patwilson@example.com> - 2014-05-19 18:48 +0000
  Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? lew <citrustwosac@google.mailer.company.invalid> - 2014-05-19 20:46 +0000
    Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Neil Ellwood <niel.elllwood2@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-20 04:26 -0500
  Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Sally Thompson <sally.thompson000@gmail.com.invalid> - 2014-05-19 21:21 +0000
    Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? hummingbird <hummingbird@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-21 09:09 +0100
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        Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? hummingbird <hummingbird@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-22 10:43 +0100
  Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-05-19 19:28 -0300
  Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2014-05-20 10:15 +0300
    Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2014-05-20 00:22 -0700
      Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Pat Wilson <patwilson@example.com> - 2014-05-20 07:36 +0000
        Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 03:55 -0400
        Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2014-05-20 05:22 -0700
          Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-05-20 13:54 -0300
            Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2014-05-20 18:22 +0100
              Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? FromTheRafters <erratic@nomail.afraid.org> - 2014-05-20 13:32 -0400
                Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2014-05-20 18:58 +0100
              Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-05-20 15:20 -0300
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      Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-20 20:47 +0000
        Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? "Tommy" <tommyleprechaun@yohoo.com> - 2014-05-20 22:36 +0100
          Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? mike <ham789@netzero.net> - 2014-05-20 15:29 -0700
            Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? "Tommy" <tommyleprechaun@yohoo.com> - 2014-05-21 00:43 +0100
              Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 05:05 +0000
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                Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-05-21 08:08 -0300
                Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? "Tommy" <tommyleprechaun@yohoo.com> - 2014-05-21 22:12 +0100
                Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 22:56 +0000
                Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? "Tommy" <tommyleprechaun@yohoo.com> - 2014-05-22 00:04 +0100
                Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 19:27 -0400
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            Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-21 05:04 +0000
              Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-21 04:43 -0400
        Re: Is there a weight-loss app that doesn't require the net? Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2014-05-20 19:19 -0300
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