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Re: display sleep wake

From Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: display sleep wake
Date 2014-05-17 13:17 -0700
Organization Datemas.de http://www.news.datemas.de
Message-ID <ll8g3u$umd$1@news.datemas.de> (permalink)
References <my1tvssxb2.fsf@Sunburn.Stanford.EDU> <170520141344360843%nospam@nospam.invalid>

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On 2014-05-17 17:44:36 +0000, nospam said:

> In article <ll83og$9lp$1@news.datemas.de>, Alan Baker
> <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> With Snow Leopard, to detect whether an iMac was in sleep mode or just
>>>>>> in display sleep, I would move the cursor by moving the Magic Mouse or
>>>>>> by sliding a finger on the Magic Trackpad.  In display sleep, that
>>>>>> would wake the screen, but in sleep mode it wouldn't wake the Mac.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now in Mavericks (including 10.9.2 and 10.9.3), trying to move the
>>>>>> cursor doesn't wake it from display sleep.  So the only methods to
>>>>>> test for display sleep are to listen for the faint disk spinning sound
>>>>>> (which in a noisy environment isn't effective -- even less effective
>>>>>> with a pure-SSD system), or possibly trying to connect to the machine
>>>>>> over the net (which might wake it from sleep if so configured).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Any way, other than those, to check for display sleep without waking a
>>>>>> sleeping recent iMac that has no power light?
>>>>> 
>>>>> same for mountain lion (and probably lion). they changed it for no good
>>>>> reason. the only way to wake the display now is tap a key which will
>>>>> also wake the mac if it's sleeping.
>>>> 
>>>> What I'm having trouble with is why I should care.
>>>> 
>>>> How does this negatively affect a Mac user?
>>> 
>>> because it was easy to push the mouse to wake the display, which can no
>>> longer be done.
>> 
>> OK. So hitting a key or clicking the mouse is so much tougher?
> 
> it's not 'much tougher', however, it's different and less convenient.

I'm sorry, but I don't think there's a meaningful difference in 
convenience between moving the mouse and clicking the mouse button.

> 
>> There are only two states:
>> 
>> I want to interact with my machine, so I want it to be awake.
>> 
>> I DON'T want to interact with it, so whether it's just display sleep or
>> full sleep, I don't care.
> 
> then why did you ask how to check for display sleep without waking?

I didn't.

> 
> pick one or the other and that's the end of that.

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display sleep wake Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-05-17 00:01 -0700
  Re: display sleep wake nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 11:11 -0400
    Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 08:49 -0700
      Re: display sleep wake nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 12:22 -0400
        Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 09:46 -0700
          Re: display sleep wake nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 13:44 -0400
            Re: display sleep wake "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 15:41 -0400
              Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 13:07 -0700
                Re: display sleep wake "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 17:14 -0400
                Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 21:22 -0700
            Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 13:17 -0700
              Re: display sleep wake nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-17 16:46 -0400
                Re: display sleep wake Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-18 00:14 -0400
                Re: display sleep wake Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 16:21 +1200
                Re: display sleep wake Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-05-18 01:17 -0400
                Re: display sleep wake Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-18 17:49 +1200
                Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 21:22 -0700
                Re: display sleep wake Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-18 05:57 +0000
                Re: display sleep wake nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:44 -0400
                Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-17 21:22 -0700
                Re: display sleep wake nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-18 15:40 -0400
              Re: display sleep wake Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-18 09:51 +0200
          Re: display sleep wake Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-05-18 09:44 +0200
            Re: display sleep wake Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 02:38 +0000
      Re: display sleep wake dcohenspam@talktalk.net (Daniel Cohen) - 2014-05-18 08:37 +0100
        Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-18 01:07 -0700
          Re: display sleep wake Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-05-18 16:44 -0700
            Re: display sleep wake Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 02:36 +0000
              Re: display sleep wake Martin Frost me at invalid stanford daht edu <nospam@stanford.edu.invalid> - 2014-05-18 22:35 -0700
                Re: display sleep wake Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-05-19 06:01 +0000
                Re: display sleep wake Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-19 18:04 +1200
          Re: display sleep wake "Puffin Killer" <puffythekiller@telus.net> - 2014-05-19 16:58 -0400
            Re: display sleep wake Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2014-05-19 19:08 -0700
  Re: display sleep wake Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-05-17 11:47 -0400

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