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Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops?

From DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
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Subject Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops?
Date 2014-05-16 12:59 -0400
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On 5/16/2014 7:31 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Lusotec wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> DFS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "the massive chore of completely integrating the code bases is not
>>>>> complete."
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/app-builder/linux-kernel-33-reunites-
>>>>> android-and-linuxs-mainline/1089
>>>>
>>>> No support in the quote for a "heavily modified [Linux] kernel" noted!
>>>
>>> Because 'massive chore to integrate' means lightly modified?
>>
>> No, and it doesn't mean "heavily modified" either!
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Select a Android kernel version and compare it to the equivalent main tree
>> Linux version. Then select two consecutive main tree Linux versions and
>> compare those. Then compare the comparisons and see if you consider the
>> Android Linux version a heavily modified version of the main tree Linux
>> version.
>>
>> For the Android Linux to main tree Linux I selected the oldest Android
>> kernel, 2.6.39, that was release before anything from the Android project
>> was committed to the main tree Linux. I'm assuming this version has the
>> largest difference to the main tree Linux but you can prove me wrong by
>> making the comparison for other version(s). I selected the most recent two
>> consecutive version of main tree Linux, 3.13 and 3.14.
>
> I snipped the details.  I simply wanted to note how DFS argues (via
> "quotes") versus how Lusotec argues (via concrete demonstration).

They're not "quotes" Creepy.  They're direct quotes from people that 
know a heck of a lot more than you about the effort involved to sync 
Android and mainline kernels.  Torvalds and Hartman say it was a lot of 
work, which means the Android kernel was heavily modified, which served 
to separate it even further from the "Linux" you advocate morons claimed 
it was.




> And anybody who peruses the linux.kernel newsgroup every day will see dozens
> of changes in the Linux kernel every day.
>
> I suppose DFS will also consider Microsoft's efforts to integrate hyper-V
> support into Linux a "massive chore" (just like the "media" did), when a
> large part of the work was simply Microsoft cleaning up after themselves.


I would only consider Hyper-V integration a "massive chore" if people 
who know what they're talking about said it was.

I defer to the experts: I'd come to you for advice on QAing Windows code 
and weekly allowances from the wife, but I'd listen to Torvalds and 
Kroah-Hartman for advice on merging Android and mainline.

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An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 16:18 +0000
  Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 18:44 +0200
    Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 11:41 -0700
  Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 11:45 -0500
    Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-08 19:33 +0100
      Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 11:47 -0700
      Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 14:44 -0500
        Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 16:42 -0400
          Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 22:45 +0200
            Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 13:49 -0700
          Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 13:46 -0700
          Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:26 +0000
            Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2014-05-09 02:38 +0000
              Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-09 05:52 -0400
              Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:37 -0400
              Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 06:56 -0500
            Re: Windows, the OS that hides that it is VMS Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 19:39 -0700
        Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-08 23:25 +0200
        Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-08 23:20 +0100
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 19:53 -0400
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:34 -0400
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:18 -0400
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:39 +0000
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 19:50 -0700
      Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-08 14:46 -0500
      Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:21 +0000
      Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 02:24 +0000
      Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-08 23:20 -0400
        Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 10:35 +0200
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-09 11:08 +0200
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 09:38 +0000
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 06:51 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 14:19 +0200
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 08:59 -0400
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:34 +0200
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 08:58 -0400
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-09 08:03 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 08:45 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 10:09 -0400
        Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-09 06:49 -0500
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:52 +0200
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:30 -0400
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 15:33 +0200
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:55 -0400
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 08:17 -0700
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 10:51 -0700
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 07:24 -0500
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-09 13:33 +0100
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-09 10:06 -0400
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-09 09:21 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-09 09:46 -0500
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:28 -0400
        Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 09:09 -0400
        Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-09 15:20 +0100
          Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 10:40 -0400
            Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-16 11:50 +0100
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-16 11:52 +0100
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 12:59 -0400
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-16 07:31 -0400
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 06:46 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 12:59 -0400
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-16 18:15 +0100
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 12:39 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-16 16:44 -0400
              Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 13:01 -0400
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-05-16 18:46 +0100
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 13:10 -0500
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-16 16:46 -0400
                Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-16 16:53 -0400
  Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2014-05-09 04:38 -0700
    Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:40 +0200
    Re: An Android All-In-One @ #9 in Desktops? Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 09:51 -0400

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