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| From | bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.fan.mozilla, gnu.misc.discuss, misc.int-property, comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia |
| Date | 2014-05-16 07:04 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <ll4da2$ipt$8@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <CF99D185.3754A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <ll3400$lps$2@dont-email.me> <CF9AA577.37615%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <ll3mec$ipt$3@dont-email.me> <CF9AAD5E.37632%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
on the great fire of Thu, 15 May 2014 17:43:58 -0700, Snit leapt from the flames and sang: > On 5/15/14, 5:34 PM, in article ll3mec$ipt$3@dont-email.me, > "bleak_fire_" > <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> wrote: > >>>>> In the end you have no real solution. You do not like DRM... so >>>>> what? >>>>> Why not work to make these proprietary solutions redundant and >>>>> unnecessary? Are you really in love with the idea of helping Adobe >>>>> (mostly) and Microsoft (a bit)? >>>> >>>> DRM is proprietary. >>> >>> First, what is being added is EME, not DRM. And ERM does allow for the >>> use of DRM without the use of Flash or Silverlight. Here, this might >>> help you to understand it better: <http://ars.to/13KG31t>. >> >> DRM is proprietary, no matter who does it or how. > > EME is not, though. Nor is it DRM. > >> The inner nature (source code, trade secret, or anything else) of DRM >> cannot legally be examined, published, or discussed without violating >> federal copyright and trade secret laws. Thus it is impossible to have >> "open DRM". Whether it be EME or a browser plugin, DRM is proprietary, >> there is no "open DRM", as something which cannot be opened is not >> "open". > > First, I do not accept that the open source world cannot come up with a > capable DRM solution. I do not know much of the OpenIPMP project, but I > would assume it is not the only open source group looking into this. > > But even if there are no open source solutions: so what? You kept insisting that EME is "open-source DRM" vs the DRM of Flash and Silverlight. It's pure Orwellian doublespeak to claim that a closed box is open because another company's name is on it. -- bleak_fire_ fka "azz" et al since nine-seven
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More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:18 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:28 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:45 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:54 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 04:34 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 21:41 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 04:46 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 02:05 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 19:19 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:10 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 00:34 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:43 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:04 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:07 -0500
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:38 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 13:09 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:51 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 19:03 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:32 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 17:05 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 08:14 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 20:57 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:26 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 06:40 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:47 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 07:54 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 10:02 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-15 10:35 +0200
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 07:03 -0500
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-15 05:57 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 09:06 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:58 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 19:21 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:50 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:06 +0000
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-16 07:33 -0400
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 11:09 -0600
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:33 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:20 -0700
Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 21:04 +0000
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