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Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	alt.fan.mozilla, gnu.misc.discuss, misc.int-property, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia
Date	2014-05-15 17:43 -0700
Message-ID	<CF9AAD5E.37632%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 5/15/14, 5:34 PM, in article ll3mec$ipt$3@dont-email.me, "bleak_fire_"
<penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> wrote:

>>>> In the end you have no real solution. You do not like DRM... so what?
>>>> Why not work to make these proprietary solutions redundant and
>>>> unnecessary? Are you really in love with the idea of helping Adobe
>>>> (mostly) and Microsoft (a bit)?
>>> 
>>> DRM is proprietary.
>> 
>> First, what is being added is EME, not DRM. And ERM does allow for the
>> use of DRM without the use of Flash or Silverlight. Here, this might
>> help you to understand it better: <http://ars.to/13KG31t>.
> 
> DRM is proprietary, no matter who does it or how.

EME is not, though. Nor is it DRM.

> The inner nature (source code, trade secret, or anything else) of DRM cannot
> legally be examined, published, or discussed without violating federal
> copyright and trade secret laws. Thus it is impossible to have "open DRM".
> Whether it be EME or a browser plugin, DRM is proprietary, there is no "open
> DRM", as something which cannot be opened is not "open".

First, I do not accept that the open source world cannot come up with a
capable DRM solution. I do not know much of the OpenIPMP project, but I
would assume it is not the only open source group looking into this.

But even if there are no open source solutions: so what?

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More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:18 +0000
  Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:28 -0700
    Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 03:45 +0000
      Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 20:54 -0700
        Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 04:34 +0000
          Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-14 21:41 -0700
            Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 04:46 +0000
              Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 02:05 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 19:19 +0000
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:10 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 00:34 +0000
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:43 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:04 +0000
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:07 -0500
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:38 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-16 13:09 -0400
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 17:51 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-18 19:03 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:32 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-16 17:05 +0200
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 08:14 -0700
                Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 20:57 -0400
  Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:26 +0200
    Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 06:40 +0000
      Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 08:47 +0200
        Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 07:54 +0000
          Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-15 10:02 +0200
            Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-15 10:35 +0200
              Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-15 07:03 -0500
          Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-15 05:57 -0400
      Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 09:06 -0400
  Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Silver Slimer <ndr@slvrlps.c> - 2014-05-15 08:58 -0400
    Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 19:21 +0000
      Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:50 -0700
        Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-16 07:06 +0000
          Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-16 07:33 -0400
            Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-16 11:09 -0600
          Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-16 07:33 -0700
    Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-15 17:20 -0700
  Re: More Mozilla Bendovers - This Time, It's The Hollywood Mafia bleak_fire_ <penachew@yomomma.hot.invalid> - 2014-05-15 21:04 +0000

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