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Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD - Xpost

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On 5/14/2014 6:05 AM, BJB wrote:
> thanks Tim for your answer!
>
> (i xpost on c.o.l.hardware because i think its a problem many people
> could have)
>
> .....
>
>  >> i have a Hp 650 NB with Ubuntu linux.
>
>  >> Always on the log (dmesg) i see ata errors, like disconnecting and
> change of speed:
>
>  >> [   13.134830] ata1.00: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x1 SErr 0x400100
> action 0x6 frozen
>  >> ......
>
>>> Made a disk test = ok.
>
>
>>> Now i removed its original HDD and tryed a new SSD samsybg 840 EVO,
>>> the thing went worse - PC don't start and remains on 'press the ESC
>>> key for startup menu'.
>
>>> Searching forums etc. i read that it could be a BIOS issue which does
>>> not recognize correctly this new drives.
>>> I have on board version F.34 and i see that F.37 is out.
>>> The problem now is that replacing bios requires windows installed
>>> which i dont have.
>
>>
>>> So thw question: HOW TO UPDATE BIOS WITH LINUX INSTALLED?
>>>
>>> -my goal is to have the HP 650 with SSD on and no ata problems or
>>> whatever
>>> (obviously :-)
>>>
>>> -i'm trying to update BIOS hoping it will help but i'm not sure so any
>>> experience from users is welcome
>>>
>>> -i tested the HDD and the SSD on other devices like usb adapter and
>>> an older
>>> desktop PC and it works with no problem, so the fault must be in the
>>> new HP 650.
>>>
>> <snip> I have not done such from Linux (and part of why I would
>> generally keep a Windows on a system if the BIOS hadn't already
>> reached it's last version etc) but this might give you some stuff to
>> try:
>
> Jes, that is a 'normal' solution, but i don't work with win$ so i have
> no reason other than this e.g. to keep a copy somewhere and HP which
> sells computers with linux on board (which is 100% ok) should not rely
> on fact that people have some win$ spare for maintenance - like here -
> bios flash....
>
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318789
>
> Here there is a problem: HP seems deliver only a win$ executable (as
> part of bios update program) and apparently not the bios image. How to
> get the HP 650 bios image? Extract from the .exe ?
>
>>
>> Failing that, could you stick a spare / old drive in there and put
>> Windows on it on there just to upgrade the BIOS?
>
> If everything other fails, i will have to do it.... but... the question
> is: WILL BIOS UPDATE HELP? Do newer bios have support for SDD?
>
>
>>
>> You might be able to do it from a BartPE boot CD but again, I haven't
>> yet (and you would need to find / make one if you don't have one
>> already).
>
> That is perhaps worth a try - thanks for the hint....

Borking the bios is not something I'd risk in the name of linux
purity.  Probably could have installed windows, updated the bios,
installed linux in less time than spent on this thread.

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Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD - Xpost BJB <sesteseQUESTOVATOLTO@gmail.ANCHEQUESTOcom> - 2014-05-14 15:05 +0200
  Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD - Xpost Vic RR Garcia <VicGar007@at-gmail.dot.com> - 2014-05-14 14:38 -0400
    Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD BJB <sesteseQUESTOVATOLTO@gmail.ANCHEQUESTOcom> - 2014-05-14 22:12 +0200
      Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2014-05-14 18:21 -0400
        Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD BJB <sesteseQUESTOVATOLTO@gmail.ANCHEQUESTOcom> - 2014-05-15 17:10 +0200
      Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD Vic RR Garcia <VicGar007@at-gmail.dot.com> - 2014-05-15 00:27 -0400
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    Re: HP 650 Notebook - problems with HDD and worse with samsung SSD - Xpost BJB <sesteseQUESTOVATOLTO@gmail.ANCHEQUESTOcom> - 2014-05-14 22:12 +0200
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