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Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC...

From DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC...
Date 2014-05-03 14:39 -0400
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On 05/02/2014 01:46 PM,  flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Fri, 02 May 2014 13:03:06 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 05/02/2014 07:39 AM,  flatfish+++ wrote:
>>> On Fri, 02 May 2014 03:45:35 +0200, tinus61 wrote:
>>>
>>>> op 02-05-14 01:35, Rob schreef:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 1 May 2014 08:54:04 -0400, 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Get ready for all the "works for me, must be you" messages from the
>>>>>> LinOloons.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to install and had to reinstall twice then finally when I tried to
>>>>> log in the Linux kernel kept freezing. Linux crap-ware.
>>>>
>>>> LMAO :-D you don't have the slightest clue what the Linux kernel is, do you?
>>>
>>> Why should he have to?
>>> Linux should work.
>>> It doesn't.
>>
>>
>> When I boot/reboot, it takes Manjaro (xfce) literaly 10 seconds to
>> recognize my login password and let me in.  Not sure what all it's
>> doing, but something is strange.
>
> And this is exactly the kind of stuff I talk about.
> How can they release crap like this?
> It's like they don't even test it.


I think it's tested once or twice by the developer, and that's it.

And chances are if you report a bug it won't be fixed.  Look at this - 
there are 2 and 3 year old bugs (in Thunar, a file manager) still 
classified as NEW.

https://bugzilla.xfce.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&content=ntfs

Amazing.




> And even the stuff Snatch has uncovered are real problems as are the
> items you have uncovered.
>
> Could you imagine if this was Windows or OSX?

No, I can't imagine MS or Apple EVER releasing such haphazard dreck.

But, to be fair, that's the nature of hobbyware developed by unpaid, 
untrained amateurs.  It can't be any other way, when an entire world can 
hack away and release their code under the GPL.



> The Linux loons would be going wild frothing and writhing with
> delight as would the hundreds of millions of end users.
> It would be on CNN in fact if the quality was as poor as what Linux
> users put up with on a daily basis.

Exactly.

http://ubuntuforums.org

Critical or High or Medium importance
Triaged or Confirmed or In Progress
Hide Dupes
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1
11645 results


Most of the things I found recently in 14.04 LTS will never be fixed.

1.  'free driver' results in taskbar and launcher icons off the screen
2.  apps open based on file extension
3.  apps in Software Center not sorted alphabetically
4.  restore vs drag-drop from Trash inconsistent
5.  default font in XTerm very tiny
6.  default is to spy on you by sending search terms and IP address
     to Canonical and 3rd parties
7.  some apps listed 2x or more in the 'Open With' list, and elsewhere
8.  tries to open a text document with a CD/DVD burning app if you
     choose Open With then Find Apps Online
9.  old dpkg.log data shows even after partition formatting
10. log viewer menus don't match the documentation
11. Software Center lists free of cost software for purchase, and
     you can't install them
12. log viewer menu disabled when run as root


#7 has been in various distros I've tried over the last 8-9 years. 
Right now, my xfce start menu shows 4 entries for 'marble'.





> Even if these things are minor, it just shows the lack of care and
> PROPER testing by the developers. And extrapolating this to the rest
> of the Linux system, using the many eyes volunteer approach, what
> kind of warm fuzzy can the users get that their programs aren't
> riddled with bugs?


The warm fuzzy is them playing pocket pool while downloading free code.

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Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-01 08:54 -0400
  Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 14:58 +0200
  Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-01 15:17 +0200
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 15:21 +0200
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-01 20:11 +0200
      Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-01 20:23 +0200
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-01 23:13 +0200
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-01 23:27 +0200
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 16:01 -0600
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-02 00:06 +0200
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 15:51 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May confuse n00bs tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 01:23 +0200
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May confuse n00bs GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 23:05 -0600
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Sinister Midget <fardblossom@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 23:41 +0000
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 23:04 -0600
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-02 10:46 +0100
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 15:07 -0700
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 01:05 +0200
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:47 -0400
      Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 12:47 +0200
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2014-05-02 12:59 +0200
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 15:01 +0200
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 21:10 +0200
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-02 13:34 -0600
  Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 09:23 -0400
  Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-01 14:29 +0100
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-01 09:37 -0400
      Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 16:18 +0200
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-01 17:10 +0100
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 18:45 +0200
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-01 20:21 +0200
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 14:44 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-01 13:44 -0500
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 12:03 -0700
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 10:59 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 17:18 +0200
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 10:10 -0400
      Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-01 17:16 +0100
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-01 12:20 -0400
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-01 17:33 +0100
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 13:13 -0700
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-01 16:41 -0400
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 13:48 -0700
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-01 21:01 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:42 -0400
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 08:59 -0400
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 12:23 -0400
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-01 18:48 +0200
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 09:54 -0700
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 13:05 -0400
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 09:32 -0700
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 10:42 -0600
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 13:02 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-01 13:05 -0400
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 10:14 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... "Poisoned by Win 8.1" <trigonometry1972@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 13:21 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 13:43 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 16:03 -0600
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-01 13:20 -0400
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-01 10:29 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 10:35 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-01 14:23 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-01 12:20 -0600
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-01 18:46 +0200
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-02 11:56 +0100
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:12 -0700
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 10:59 -0400
  Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Rob <mefffrrggtt@privacy.net> - 2014-05-01 16:35 -0700
    More lies and FUD from the Softy L00ns Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-01 20:05 -0400
      Re: More lies and FUD from the Softy L00ns William Poaster <wp@induh-vidual.net> - 2014-05-02 10:50 +0100
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May confuse n00bs tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-02 03:45 +0200
      Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:39 -0400
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-02 13:03 -0400
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 13:46 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-03 14:39 -0400
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 12:10 -0700
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-03 15:18 -0400
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-03 12:56 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-03 13:54 -0700
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 17:07 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 18:05 -0700
    Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 07:48 -0400
      Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 09:01 -0400
        Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-02 09:20 -0400
          Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 10:50 -0400
            Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 17:17 +0200
              Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-02 11:26 -0400
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-02 08:39 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:17 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:31 -0700
                Re: Upgrading to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS May Cripple Your PC... Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-02 11:22 -0700

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