Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons?

From	John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org>
Newsgroups	comp.misc
Subject	Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons?
Date	2014-02-11 12:11 +0000
Organization	Slashdot Beta Exodus
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On 2014-02-11, q.kontinuum <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree Slashdot Beta sucks. But could there be some technical reasons 
> for the decision to update nevertheless? Apparently the current backend 
> code relies on specific outdated perl versions etc. Maybe there are 
> security concerns regarding the older version.
>
> For the usenet-solution: No-one prevents other users to spam the group 
> with unrelated articles, or even with well intended "articles" no sane 
> nerd is actually interested in. I'm afraid this group might turn into a 
> mess very soon if even half of the slashdot readers finds its way here.

Yes, I think if even 1% things would get messy.  I'm still figuring out
various sort methods in slrn.  Anybody know how to "un catch-up a thread"?
(yes, I know, I have the source code :)

 I 
> also miss slashdot rating system. On slashdot it is easy to find valuable 
> comments, just ignore ratings < 2 (unless you have mod-points) and 5 (if 
> it's rated 5, it is most likely obvious and agreeable by everyone, so 
> usually boring. 3 or 4 is usually sensible enough for some to understand, 
> but still not obvious enough that every moderator automatically agrees :-
> ))
>
> I would love to see access via nntp protocol to soylentnews, with message 
> headers containing current scores. Users with mod-points would have to 
> use the web-version, and as an incentive to use it (to generate ad-
> revenue to pay for infrastructure) mod-points could be awarded only to 
> those who use web.

I made my previous post before seeing that someone else had started thinking
about this.  Here are some random thoughts I've had about the issue, that
actually relate to similar thoughts I have for improving pokerth(.net)-

I think it might (with a lot of work) be possible to add more social
networking and web-of-trust features on top of usenet.  Probably I'm just
ignorant of the existing scoring systems (I certainly am, I still have lots
of basics of slrn to relearn, or learn for the first time (it was called
trn last time I used it).

I.e. take your kill-file for starters.  That seems the first way to cut the
noise from the signal.  What you need next it seems, is to add a social
networking web-of-trust component to that.  I.e. you have one or more circles/
levels of friends.  And in addition to that causing their posts to get 
emphasized in your post-list, that should also cause their kill files to 
get emphasized within your own kill list.

Anyway, that's my start.  Probably I'm just rehashing social-networking
theory laid out by diaspora or other researchers I never bothered to look
at.  But hey, I'm having fun adding my own noise and signal here :)

(the pokerth connection is the same basic issue for blocking chat from other
players)

Cheers,

-dmc

Thread

Slashdot Beta Sucks John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-07 10:45 +0000
  Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 11:45 -0500
    Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-07 18:01 +0000
      Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-07 19:35 +0000
        Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 15:02 -0800
          Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 18:18 -0500
            Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 00:12 +0000
              Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:36 -0800
                Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Kees Nuyt <k.nuyt@nospam.demon.nl> - 2014-02-18 22:56 +0100
            Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 16:33 -0800
            Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-09 03:23 +0000
  Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:29 -0500
    Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-08 02:48 +0000
      Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks CoolHand <coolhnd28@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 21:54 -0500
        Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-08 04:09 +0000
        Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 22:39 -0800
      Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2014-02-08 12:09 +0000
        Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks brendan.halpin@ul.ie (Brendan Halpin) - 2014-02-19 23:24 +0000
  Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-07 23:15 -0500
    Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-07 22:41 -0800
      Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2014-02-08 20:03 +0000
        Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks 2phar <none@example.com> - 2014-02-08 15:16 -0500
          Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-08 15:31 -0800
            Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks shvelven <shvelven@gmail.com> - 2014-02-09 02:30 -0500
              Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-09 10:53 +0000
              Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks TrueSatan <true_satan@fastmail.co.uk> - 2014-02-09 10:54 +0000
                Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Oregonian Haruspex <bob_davis_retired@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-09 15:35 +0000
            Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Vince Mulhollon <vincemulhollon@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 13:32 -0800
              Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-12 00:06 +0000
              Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks vehka <heikki.wilenius@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 17:55 -0800
                Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks "tdk" <forum.tdk@squte.com> - 2014-02-12 08:47 +0847
                Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-26 00:34 -0500
            Re: Slashdot Beta Sucks Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-02-25 23:43 -0500
  Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 09:05 +0000
    Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? John Brownalt <deconfliction@filteredperception.org> - 2014-02-11 12:11 +0000
      Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? "q.kontinuum" <achsis_of_elvis@yahoo.com> - 2014-02-11 13:26 +0000
      Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? Lance Orner <lance@orner.invalid.net> - 2014-02-12 03:38 +0000
    Re: Slashdot Beta -> Technical reasons? Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> - 2014-02-11 09:58 -0500

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