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Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping

From Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system, comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping
Date 2013-11-21 23:24 -0500
Organization Ain’t No Organization Here!
Message-ID <l6mm97$ft9$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 11-21-2013, 21:21, Lewis wrote:
>    Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> On 11-21-2013, 15:21, John Holt wrote:
>> I'm not so sure that Word and Excel did that much for the Mac.
>> My second civilian employer used Mac System 7.5: crashed many times every
>> day--if Word or Excel were running.  No crashes on the rare day when
>> those beasts weren't in use.  Someone who used them every day, or who
>> wasn't very observant, would think it was Apple's fault.
>
> What version of Word? I ran Word 3 4 and 5 on the Mac for many years. I
> couldn't swear it ever crashed.

That's a heck of a question to ask an old man thirty years after the 
event!  :-)

It was from January 1996 until shortly after Windows NT came out.  They 
switched to NT, which crashed even more often.  Although the admittedly 
superior user-space architecture was in NT, the implementation was still 
poor, and many apps were still able to crash the whole system.

I _think_ the Word version on the Mac was 5.1, and I have no idea of the 
Excel version.  I can't remember which was worse, Word or Excel, but 
part of the difference between your experience and mine might have been 
file size.  So many of my colleagues in the defense business would write 
specifications of three hundred to a thousand pages, mostly fluff.  And 
they'd put the entire thing in a single file!

I wrote a Software Requirements Specification of eighty pages that 
people eventually admitted was complete and well-done.  But at first 
they were so convinced that something they could pick up with only one 
hand wasn't ready for review that they wouldn't pick it up at all.

-- 
Wes Groleau

    Curmudgeon's Complaints on Courtesy:
    http://www.onlinenetiquette.com/courtesy1.html

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29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2013-11-20 13:11 -0600
  Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-21 09:08 +1300
    Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-20 20:37 -0500
      Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-20 19:57 -0600
        Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-21 19:08 +1300
          Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2013-11-21 07:24 +0000
            Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping John Holt <me@foo.net> - 2013-11-21 15:21 -0500
              Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-21 20:34 -0500
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-22 02:21 +0000
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-21 23:24 -0500
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-21 23:38 -0500
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-22 15:29 +0000
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping "M. John Matlaw" <nouser@invalid.com> - 2013-11-22 14:55 -0500
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-23 00:56 -0500
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2013-11-24 05:43 +0100
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-22 18:36 +1300
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-22 01:06 -0500
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-11-22 18:20 +0000
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-22 11:34 -0700
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-11-22 19:22 +0000
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-22 16:12 -0700
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-11-23 03:34 +0000
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-22 21:36 -0700
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2013-11-23 12:02 -0800
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-23 15:58 -0700
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Bill Findlay <yaldnif.w@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2013-11-23 22:34 +0000
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2013-11-23 20:55 +0000
          Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-21 01:51 -0600
            Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-22 09:28 +1300
      Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-21 01:42 -0500
        Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-21 11:49 -0500
          Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-21 11:56 -0500
      Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-21 09:07 -0700
        Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-21 11:53 -0500
          Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-21 11:56 -0500
            Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-21 12:30 -0500
              Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-21 13:00 -0500
          Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-22 09:33 +1300
            Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2013-11-21 15:54 -0500
              Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Recliner <recliner2-news@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-11-21 18:47 -0600
                Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-11-22 11:07 +0000
    Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Matthew Lybanon <lybanon@earthlink.net> - 2013-11-21 12:04 -0600
      Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2013-11-22 09:31 +1300
  Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2013-11-20 18:27 -0800
  Re: 29 Years Ago: The Flop that keeps on Flopping "Mr. Strat" <mrstrat@nospam.gmail.com> - 2013-11-21 06:42 -0800

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