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Re: A curious thing...about tags.

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: A curious thing...about tags.
Date 2013-07-22 08:47 +0100
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On 21/07/13 23:21, Norman Peelman wrote:
> On 07/21/2013 03:35 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 21/07/13 19:31, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 7/21/13 1:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 20/07/13 19:33, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:09:37 +0200, Thomas Mlynarczyk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> suppose I want my string to be "?> something <?"
>>>>>>> How on earth is it possible to STOP PHP interpreting that as some
>>>>>>> blasted 'escape to outputting text'
>>>>>> Sorry, but I still don't quite see the problem. PHP will happily
>>>>>> accept
>>>>>> the above string as what it is: a simple string. It will not try to
>>>>>> interpret the <? or ?> contained within that string (why should 
>>>>>> it?).
>>>>> Thomas, the problem is with the ability of the poster you are
>>>>> applying to
>>>>> to comprehend and understand string handling in php, and what his
>>>>> browser
>>>>> views as an element.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of us understood the need to use &lt; and why in html if we
>>>>> wanted a
>>>>> less than symbol within a few months at most of starting to use html.
>>>>> Some others will never understand it.
>>>> The problem is of course that you have totally failed to understand 
>>>> the
>>>> problem I was in fact having.
>>>>
>>>> It has NOTHING to do with the browser.
>>>> The string output was never going anywhere NEAR a browser.
>>>>
>>>> The problem was how to CONSTRUCT a string using PHP, to put in a 
>>>> file or
>>>> a database, that contain PHP escape sequences.
>>>>
>>>> Without. PHP interpreting them AS escape sequences.
>>>>
>>>> That is given the string $something, how to make
>>>> $new="?>".$something."<?";
>>>>
>>>>   without PHP instantly thinking you wanted to print $something on
>>>> stdout.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Also, as you have noticed, the failure modes that some people post 
>>>>> are
>>>>> not the failures that occur in the circumstances they describe. When
>>>>> you
>>>>> see this, you can usually assume that the person concerned does 
>>>>> not, to
>>>>> use a common term, know their arse from their elbow.
>>>>>
>>>> Or in this case,.. the person his not bothered to understand the 
>>>> actual
>>>> problem being described.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The issue is that the PHP interpreter is defined to be smart enough 
>>> that
>>> the ?> closing tag should NOT be recognized inside a quoted string the
>>> way you have stated. It is almost certainly some other problem.
>>>
>>> Can you post an EXACT COMPLETE example showing the problem and the
>>> output you get (view source on the page)?
>> I managed to get it to work, as I stated earlier..
>>
>> This was the final code which works, hopefully not by some versional 
>> quirk
>>
>> $run="?>".$run;
>> $run= $run."<?";
>>
>>
>>
>
>   If that works, then so should your original example... as well as:
>
> $run="?> $something <?";
>
>   Can you post an example of what wasn't working with output? And 
> where the output is going? Cannot duplicate here.
>
> norman@amd64x2:~$ php -version
> PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.19 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Mar 11 2013 
> 15:23:48)
> Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group
> Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies
>
> norman@amd64x2:~$ php -a
> Interactive shell
>
> php > $something="my text";
> php > $run="?> $something <?";
> php > echo $run;
> ?> my text <?
>
>
In my setup that produces no output at all.
Mind you php -a doesnt produce any output from
php> echo "this";

either..

Nor even a command prompt

It just sits there...




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A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 12:00 +0100
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 12:40 +0100
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-20 14:29 +0100
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2013-07-20 13:41 +0200
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-20 08:46 -0400
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2013-07-20 17:09 +0200
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-20 18:12 +0200
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 18:08 +0100
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-20 13:40 -0400
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-20 18:33 +0000
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 18:14 +0100
        Re: A curious thing...about tags. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2013-07-21 14:31 -0400
          Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 20:35 +0100
            Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-21 18:21 -0400
              Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 08:47 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-22 09:13 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. "Alex vdB" <alex@invalid> - 2013-07-22 11:15 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:30 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. "AvdB" <nomail@example.invalid> - 2013-07-23 00:13 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-07-24 22:58 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:31 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:31 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 15:25 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:46 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-22 17:41 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 19:14 +0000
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 17:00 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 21:29 +0000
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-23 00:27 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 19:27 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:56 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 20:59 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-23 20:02 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:52 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-23 09:40 +0000
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-23 06:22 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-23 13:07 +0100

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