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Re: A curious thing...about tags.

From Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: A curious thing...about tags.
Date 2013-07-21 18:21 -0400
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On 07/21/2013 03:35 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 21/07/13 19:31, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/21/13 1:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 20/07/13 19:33, Denis McMahon wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:09:37 +0200, Thomas Mlynarczyk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Natural Philosopher schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> suppose I want my string to be "?> something <?"
>>>>>> How on earth is it possible to STOP PHP interpreting that as some
>>>>>> blasted 'escape to outputting text'
>>>>> Sorry, but I still don't quite see the problem. PHP will happily
>>>>> accept
>>>>> the above string as what it is: a simple string. It will not try to
>>>>> interpret the <? or ?> contained within that string (why should it?).
>>>> Thomas, the problem is with the ability of the poster you are
>>>> applying to
>>>> to comprehend and understand string handling in php, and what his
>>>> browser
>>>> views as an element.
>>>>
>>>> Most of us understood the need to use &lt; and why in html if we
>>>> wanted a
>>>> less than symbol within a few months at most of starting to use html.
>>>> Some others will never understand it.
>>> The problem is of course that you have totally failed to understand the
>>> problem I was in fact having.
>>>
>>> It has NOTHING to do with the browser.
>>> The string output was never going anywhere NEAR a browser.
>>>
>>> The problem was how to CONSTRUCT a string using PHP, to put in a file or
>>> a database, that contain PHP escape sequences.
>>>
>>> Without. PHP interpreting them AS escape sequences.
>>>
>>> That is given the string $something, how to make
>>> $new="?>".$something."<?";
>>>
>>>   without PHP instantly thinking you wanted to print $something on
>>> stdout.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Also, as you have noticed, the failure modes that some people post are
>>>> not the failures that occur in the circumstances they describe. When
>>>> you
>>>> see this, you can usually assume that the person concerned does not, to
>>>> use a common term, know their arse from their elbow.
>>>>
>>> Or in this case,.. the person his not bothered to understand the actual
>>> problem being described.
>>>
>>>
>> The issue is that the PHP interpreter is defined to be smart enough that
>> the ?> closing tag should NOT be recognized inside a quoted string the
>> way you have stated. It is almost certainly some other problem.
>>
>> Can you post an EXACT COMPLETE example showing the problem and the
>> output you get (view source on the page)?
> I managed to get it to work, as I stated earlier..
>
> This was the final code which works, hopefully not by some versional quirk
>
> $run="?>".$run;
> $run= $run."<?";
>
>
>

   If that works, then so should your original example... as well as:

$run="?> $something <?";

   Can you post an example of what wasn't working with output? And where 
the output is going? Cannot duplicate here.

norman@amd64x2:~$ php -version
PHP 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.19 with Suhosin-Patch (cli) (built: Mar 11 2013 
15:23:48)
Copyright (c) 1997-2009 The PHP Group
Zend Engine v2.3.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2010 Zend Technologies

norman@amd64x2:~$ php -a
Interactive shell

php > $something="my text";
php > $run="?> $something <?";
php > echo $run;
?> my text <?


-- 
Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
-Have you been to www.php.net yet?-

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A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 12:00 +0100
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 12:40 +0100
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-20 14:29 +0100
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2013-07-20 13:41 +0200
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-20 08:46 -0400
  Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas Mlynarczyk <thomas@mlynarczyk-webdesign.de> - 2013-07-20 17:09 +0200
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-20 18:12 +0200
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 18:08 +0100
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-20 13:40 -0400
    Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-20 18:33 +0000
      Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 18:14 +0100
        Re: A curious thing...about tags. Richard Damon <Richard@Damon-Family.org> - 2013-07-21 14:31 -0400
          Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-21 20:35 +0100
            Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-21 18:21 -0400
              Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 08:47 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-22 09:13 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. "Alex vdB" <alex@invalid> - 2013-07-22 11:15 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:30 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. "AvdB" <nomail@example.invalid> - 2013-07-23 00:13 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-07-24 22:58 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:31 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 06:31 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-22 15:25 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:46 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-22 17:41 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 19:14 +0000
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 17:00 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-22 21:29 +0000
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-23 00:27 +0200
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 19:27 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:56 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-07-22 20:59 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-23 20:02 +0100
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-22 19:52 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-07-23 09:40 +0000
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Norman Peelman <npeelman@cfl.rr.com> - 2013-07-23 06:22 -0400
                Re: A curious thing...about tags. Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-07-23 13:07 +0100

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