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Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist?

From Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist?
Date 2013-06-23 15:10 -0400
Organization NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $23.95
Message-ID <kq7h7002hvo@news4.newsguy.com> (permalink)
References <slrnkseg6r.2qn.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>

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On 06/23/2013 02:40 PM, notbob wrote:
> Don't ask!
> 
> I may be able to justify buying a new Dell i7 desktop box by claiming
> I need (and will actually use) Windows/Office for office
> administrative (not network) purposes.  This strictly offline, of
> course, not wanting to even remotely allow network access to a M$ OS
> box.  Then set up to dual boot linux for secure online use.  This used
> to be possible up to XP, but not so sure about newer hardware and M$
> OS.  So, here's my specific questions:
> 
> * Can you even run W7/Office w/o phoning home (microsoft.com)?  
> 
> * Does W7 even have a CLI and mbr?
> 
> * Is a Dell Inspirion i7 saddled with that secure M$ boot nonsense,
>   yet?      
> 
> * will linux work on an i7? 
> 
> * Do I need grub(2) to boot more than one OS (W7 and a couple linux
>   distros).
> 
> I'm pretty out of date with respect to hardware.  I got a 12 yr old
> P4.  Clue me in.     
> 
> nb

I got a Dell Precision T7600 last fall. It has a Four Core XEON E5-2603,
1.8GHz processor in it.

It came with Windows 7 Professional, and I added Red Hat Enterprise
Linux 6 to it. I run mostly the Linux, but use the Windows to update my
Garmin GPS, and to use TaxAct for my income tax.

It boots to Linux with GRUB by default, but if I catch it during the
beginning of the boot, I can make it boot to windows.

I do not know if Windows 7 has a CLI or not; I never looked for it,
because my need for Windows is so small. I suspect it has an MBR. The
boot block looks like this:

# dd bs=512 count=1 if=/dev/sda | od -c
1+0 records in
1+0 records out
512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.0295088 s, 17.4 kB/s
0000000 353   H 220 320 274  \0   | 216 300 216 330 276  \0   | 277  \0
0000020 006 271  \0 002 374 363 244   P   h 034 006 313 373 271 004  \0
0000040 275 276  \a 200   ~  \0  \0   |  \v 017 205 020 001 203 305 020
0000060 342 361 315 030 210   V  \0   U 306   F 021 005 306   F 003 002
0000100 201  \0  \0 200 350   : 201  \0  \0  \b 372 220 220 366 302 200
0000120   u 002 262 200 352   Y   |  \0  \0   1 300 216 330 216 320 274
0000140  \0     373 240   @   |   < 377   t 002 210 302   R 366 302 200
0000160   t   T 264   A 273 252   U 315 023   Z   R   r   I 201 373   U
0000200 252   u   C 240   A   | 204 300   u 005 203 341 001   t   7   f
0000220 213   L 020 276 005   | 306   D 377 001   f 213 036   D   | 307
0000240 004 020  \0 307   D 002 001  \0   f 211   \  \b 307   D 006  \0
0000260   p   f   1 300 211   D 004   f 211   D  \f 264   B 315 023   r
0000300 005 273  \0   p 353   } 264  \b 315 023   s  \n 366 302 200 017
0000320 204 360  \0 351 215  \0 276 005   | 306   D 377  \0   f   1 300
0000340 210 360   @   f 211   D 004   1 322 210 312 301 342 002 210 350
0000360 210 364   @ 211   D  \b   1 300 210 320 300 350 002   f 211 004
0000400   f 241   D   |   f   1 322   f 367   4 210   T  \n   f   1 322
0000420   f 367   t 004 210   T  \v 211   D  \f   ;   D  \b   }   < 212
0000440   T  \r 300 342 006 212   L  \n 376 301  \b 321 212   l  \f   Z
0000460 212   t  \v 273  \0   p 216 303   1 333 270 001 002 315 023   r
0000500   * 214 303 216 006   H   |   ` 036 271  \0 001 216 333   1 366
0000520   1 377 374 363 245 037   a 377   &   B   | 276 177   } 350   @
0000540  \0 353 016 276 204   } 350   8  \0 353 006 276 216   } 350   0
0000560  \0 276 223   } 350   *  \0 353 376   G   R   U   B      \0   G
0000600   e   o   m  \0   H   a   r   d       D   i   s   k  \0   R   e
0000620   a   d  \0       E   r   r   o   r  \0 273 001  \0 264 016 315
0000640 020 254   <  \0   u 364 303  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0
0000660  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0   e 243 354 374  \0  \0  \0 001
0000700 001  \0 336 004   $   &   $  \0  \0  \0 240 001 001  \0 200 033
0000720 001   +  \a   , 340 264  \0     001  \0  \0   ` 027  \0  \0   ,
0000740 341 264  \a   . 344 377  \0 200 030  \0  \0 300 003 035  \0  \0
0000760  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0  \0   U 252

I do run grub. I do not know if LILO still works. I know there are other
boot loaders, but I know nothing about them.

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Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-23 18:40 +0000
  Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Jean-David Beyer <jeandavid8@verizon.net> - 2013-06-23 15:10 -0400
  Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-06-23 21:11 +0200
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-23 21:35 +0000
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-06-24 07:36 +0200
        Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-24 13:47 +0000
          Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2013-06-24 21:13 +0000
            Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-25 11:39 +0000
              Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Robert Komar <robk@robpc4.home.org> - 2013-06-27 20:39 -0700
        Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-06-24 12:41 -0400
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? "Charlie Gibbs" <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2013-06-24 08:56 -0800
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-06-24 18:11 +0200
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Soupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 12:41 +0000
  Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2013-06-23 20:18 +0100
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Piergiorgio Sartor <piergiorgio.sartor.this.should.not.be.used@nexgo.REMOVETHIS.de> - 2013-06-23 22:04 +0200
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-06-23 22:15 +0100
  Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-06-23 21:23 +0100
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Jeremy Nicoll - news posts <jn.nntp.scrap007@wingsandbeaks.org.uk> - 2013-06-23 22:26 +0100
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-06-24 00:00 +0100
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-06-25 21:02 +0100
        Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <spamtrap@library.lspace.org.invalid> - 2013-06-27 11:05 -0400
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2013-06-23 16:49 -0500
  Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Thomas Richter <thor@math.tu-berlin.de> - 2013-06-24 17:16 +0200
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-06-24 12:29 -0400
  Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-07-19 21:56 +0000
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-07-19 17:07 -0500
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-07-19 22:13 +0000
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-07-19 22:47 +0000
        Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-07-20 00:08 +0000
          Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-07-20 12:35 +0000
    Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-07-20 08:16 +0100
      Re: Can Windows and Linux still coexist? notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-07-20 12:40 +0000

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