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Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux

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On Monday, June 3rd, 2013, at 19:37:57h +0100,
R J Kettlewell instructed:

> I suggest you "go and look up the sources" I referred to, rather than
> resorting to insults.

It is quite clear that for a period of time the Debian project was
under the control of the FSF because the Debian web site says so,
despite your protestations otherwise.

From <http://www.debian.ORG/intro/cooperation>

QUOTE

  From: bruce@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
  Date: Sun, 21 Jul 96 18:04 PDT
  To: debian-announce@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Debian and FSF Cooperate


  Some time ago, the Debian group decided to decline continued
  FSF sponsorship.

  ...

  even though *FSF no longer has the control* over the project
  that came with their former sponsorship of Debian

UNQUOTE

If on Sunday July 21st, 1996, FSF no longer had control,
then logically it follows that FSF did have control for
a period of time prior to that.

Furthermore, a posting in comp.os.linux.announce archived at

<http://www.anonymous-insider.NET/open-source-software/research/1996/0428.html>

QUOTE

   From: b...@pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
   Subject: FSF and Debian
   Date: 1996/05/01
   Message-ID: < cola-liw-830950619-28603-0@liw.clinet.fi>#1/1
   X-Deja-AN: 152497465
   x-original-date: Tue, 30 Apr 96 10:20 PDT
   organization: ?
   followup-to: comp.os.linux.misc
   newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce

   This morning, FSF announced to the gnu.announce newsgroup that it was
   no longer sponsoring Debian.

   Ian Murdock, *who was sponsored by FSF*, stepped down from the project
   leader position some time ago so that he could spend more time on
   school, work, and his family.

   ...

 UNQUOTE

And from the Debian FAQ document, an OFFICIAL document of 
Software in the Public Interest, archived at

<http://sdn.vlsm.ORG/share/Debian-Doc/FAQ/ch-basic_defs.en.html>

QUOTE

   The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ 

   Copyright © 1996-2003 by Software in the Public Interest 

   ...

   The Debian Project was created by Ian Murdock in 1993,
   *initially under the sponsorship*
   of the Free Software Foundation's GNU project.

QUOTE

This is clear evidence that Ian Murdock whilst working on Debian
was under the sponsorship, authority, control, leadership, influence,
or however you want to describe it, of the FSF.


In my postings I have provided quoted material and URLs for the
full documents, not just unhelpful and disparaging comments of
"go and look up the sources" in some newgroup or other.

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Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux White Spirit <wulfgar1976@gmail.com> - 2013-06-03 01:33 -0700
  Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2013-06-03 07:49 -0500
    Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-06-03 15:46 +0000
      Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-06-03 17:18 +0100
        Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-06-03 17:08 +0000
          Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-06-03 19:37 +0100
            Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2013-06-03 19:40 +0000
              Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-06-03 21:48 +0100
              Re: Recommended distro to install for a newcomer to Linux notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-03 23:03 +0000

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