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On 6/1/2013 1:27 PM, Evan Platt wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:50:14 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> And you know this from experience, I suppose?
>>
>> No, spammers hope they WON'T be reported.
>
> Are you serious?
>
> Most ISP's don't care if they host spammers, as long as the spammers
> pay the bills. Who pays the spammers ISP and hosting - you or the
> spammer? Who do you think they listen to?
>

No, responsible ISPs do care - because otherwise their IP addresses get 
blacklisted.

And do you think they care more about 1 spammer on a server - or the 
other 149 non-spammers who also got blacklisted?

>> Because then other spammers know SPAM is being reported.
>
> Serious? You really think a spammer reads the messages here before
> they post, and go "Oh. Jerry reports spammers if I post in this group.
> Maybe I better not post here?"
>

You would be surprised how many do.  Not all, I agree, but some do.

And can you say no spammer has read this group before posting?  I don't 
think so.

> If that were the case, we would see zero spam.
>

And why would that be?  How many spammers have you seen reported here in 
the last week, for instance?

> And reporting spam is useless in most cases. I've reported a repeat
> spammer who spams dozens of groups. Reported him for months until I
> finally gave up.
>

I've reported lots of spam - and gotten notes from many ISPs saying the 
spammers account has been cancelled.

I even remember one guy on alt.www.webmasters who spammed the group - 
then came back crying because his hosting company deleted his account 
and files - and he didn't have a backup.

> Course I'm willing to wait a week and see if this spammers webpage is
> still alive and active. I'd bet it is.
>

Maybe, maybe not, maybe another hosting company.  But if no one reports 
it, it definitely will still be active.

But ignoring spam NEVER makes it better - and generally makes it worse.



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jstucklex@attglobal.net
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