Re: Best Online Shop

From	Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net>
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Subject	Re: Best Online Shop
Date	2013-06-01 18:48 -0400
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On 6/1/2013 3:00 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 6/1/2013 1:27 PM, Evan Platt wrote:
>> On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:50:14 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> And you know this from experience, I suppose?

Does ound like a spammer response, doesn't it? A newbie, but still ...

>> Most ISP's don't care if they host spammers, as long as the spammers
>> pay the bills. Who pays the spammers ISP and hosting - you or the
>> spammer? Who do you think they listen to?
>>
>
> No, responsible ISPs do care - because otherwise their IP addresses get
> blacklisted.

Yes, the vast majority care a LOT for the reasons mentioned and more.

>
> And do you think they care more about 1 spammer on a server - or the
> other 149 non-spammers who also got blacklisted?

It's not only the number of spams sent: More importantly it how many 
people report the spam to ISPs and up.

>

...

>
>> And reporting spam is useless in most cases. I've reported a repeat
>> spammer who spams dozens of groups. Reported him for months until I
>> finally gave up.

I have to wonder what kind of spam fighter you are. If it comes time 
after time and you're still seeing it, that says you have a lot to learn 
yet. You can easily collect it to report without having it cluttering up 
the Inbox. SOME spammers make enough money just selling your address to 
live comfortably; it's not necessary to let that happen. If you want, 
there are plenty of good, safe, reliable sites for you to learn about 
fighting spam. Hit them in the pocket book and it's a success whether he 
comes back with a new location or not. It's not always possible, but any 
new spammers can often be stopped dead in their tracks.

>>
>
> I've reported lots of spam - and gotten notes from many ISPs saying the
> spammers account has been cancelled.

Same here, and many are happy to know they have a spammer in their midst 
and are happy to dispose of his accounts, making him go elsewhere.

>
> I even remember one guy on alt.www.webmasters who spammed the group -
> then came back crying because his hosting company deleted his account
> and files - and he didn't have a backup.
>
>> Course I'm willing to wait a week and see if this spammers webpage is
>> still alive and active. I'd bet it is.
>>
>
> Maybe, maybe not, maybe another hosting company.  But if no one reports
> it, it definitely will still be active.

And it'll become more and more prevalent, malicious and ornery as they 
grow in strength.

>
> But ignoring spam NEVER makes it better - and generally makes it worse.

True, but for the uninitiated, it's still "JHD" (Just Hit Delete), don't 
read it, never click on
any links in it and never respond in any way that the spammer will 
figure out what you're doing. If the spammer can find a way to know you 
read his spam, the value of your e-mail address on the spam lists 
increases considerably and they can get more bang for their buck, so to 
speak.

If you want to know more about fighting spam, check out spamcop.NET and 
spamhaus.org; both are excellent and informative places to start.

Twayne`

BTW, I won't be responding to further messages unless they're legit 
discussions. I don't support flame wars either.

>
>
>

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Best Online Shop ioanna921 <ioanna_fotini@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-01 03:34 -0700
  Re: Best Online Shop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-06-01 09:02 -0400
    Re: Best Online Shop Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2013-06-01 15:22 +0200
      Re: Best Online Shop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-06-01 10:13 -0400
        Re: Best Online Shop Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2013-06-01 16:25 +0200
          Re: Best Online Shop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-06-01 10:50 -0400
            Re: Best Online Shop Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> - 2013-06-01 10:27 -0700
              Re: Best Online Shop Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-06-01 15:00 -0400
                Re: Best Online Shop Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-06-01 18:48 -0400
      Re: Best Online Shop Twayne <nobody@spamcop.net> - 2013-06-01 10:27 -0400

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