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Re: What is the cause of gravity?

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What is the cause of gravity?
Date 2023-08-26 22:24 -0500
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On 8/26/2023 7:07 PM, Alan Folmsbee wrote:
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:40:56 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 10:23:28 AM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 3:23:51 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> kenseto <set...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> What is the cause of gravity?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attempts to answer this questions are as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. Newton’s gravitational theory:
>>>>>>> Newton’s gravitation equation describes the effects of gravity on
>>>>>>> interacting objects. But he had no clue on the cause of gravity, on why
>>>>>>> the interacting objects are attracted to each other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However many right after him, including Gauss stepped in for Newton and
>>>>>> described it in terms of a physical field.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. Einstein’s gravitational theory, the General Relativity Theory (GRT):
>>>>>>> GRT says that interacting objects follows the curvature of space-time but
>>>>>>> that is just a description the path being followed by the interacting
>>>>>>> objects. No cause why objects follow the curvature of spacetime because
>>>>>>> spacetime is not a material medium. It is a math construct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not true. The spacetime that GR models is a physical entity, not just a
>>>>>> math construct. Not everything that is physical is material. This has been
>>>>>> known for centuries.
>>>>>
>>>>> If spacetime is a physical entity, please describe....BTW, assertion is
>>>>> not a valid description.
>>>>
>>>> Ken, that just isn’t going to happen on a newsgroup. All you are ever going
>>>> to get on Usenet are short, undetailed responses. Explanations do not come
>>>> here. They never have. Books are the only option.
>>>
>>> Of course not....all you do is making bull shit assertions.
>> Because this is not the place to learn basic stuff like this.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Quantum field theory of graviton:
>>>>>>> The Quantum field theory of gravity says that gravity between interacting
>>>>>>> objects is mediated by the hypothetical particle called the graviton.
>>>>>>> However the equations of graviton give rise to all sorts of infinities
>>>>>>> and thus they are not normalizable to give GRT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This isn’t entirely accurate either. There are graviton theories which are
>>>>>> not customary QFTs but which exhibit no infinities.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why they are not adopted by physicists?
>>>>
>>>> They ARE! Catch up.
>>>
>>> More bull shit.
>> Nope! You are WAY behind the times. Read.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. Model Mechanics theory of gravity, the DTG:
>>>>>>> A paper on DTG is available in the following link:
>>>>>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015gravity.pdf
>>>>>>> DTG posits that gravity is a composite force and that the causes of
>>>>>>> gravity between the earth and the moon are as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The earth and the moon are expanding in the same direction in a
>>>>>>> structured and elastic medium, called the E-Matrix, occupying all of
>>>>>>> space as the universe expands. This causes an attractive EM force between them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. The structure of the E-Matrix is divergent. The earth and the moon are
>>>>>>> confined to follow the divergent structure of the E-Matrix as the
>>>>>>> universe expands. This gives rise to a repulsive effect (force) between them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Newton’s Gravity force equation is the combined result of the above
>>>>>>> opposing forces. That's why gravity is so weak compared to the EM force alone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 4. As you can see the combination of these opposing forces is the reason
>>>>>>> why the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit around the earth. That
>>>>>>> means that the assertion by physicists in this NG that gravity is a
>>>>>>> single attractive force and that this single attractive force of gravity
>>>>>>> is enabling the moon to maintain a stable orbit around the earth is a bogus assertion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your idea has no calculations of any numbers, which is a prerequisite of a
>>>>>> theory. So yours is not a theory.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don’t know the meaning of the word “theory”. In any case I present
>>>>> the cause of gravity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, YOU don’t know the meaning of a theory. Remember, you’ve read NOTHING.
>>>> Remember, you don’t even know how the scientific method works.
>>>
>>> No, it is you who don’t know the meaning of the word theory....look it up idiot.
>>>
>> I HAVE. You have not.
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> Odd One: you die in 2023 !!!

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Re: What is the cause of gravity? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 17:07 -0700
  Re: What is the cause of gravity? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-08-26 17:26 -0700
  Re: What is the cause of gravity? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-26 21:22 -0500
  Re: What is the cause of gravity? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-26 22:24 -0500

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