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Re: What is the cause of gravity?

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: What is the cause of gravity?
Date 2018-06-25 14:23 +0000
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kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 3:23:51 PM UTC-4, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> kenseto <setoken@att.net> wrote:
>>> What is the cause of gravity?
>>> 
>>> Attempts to answer this questions are as follows:
>>> 
>>> 1. Newton’s gravitational theory:
>>> Newton’s gravitation equation describes the effects of gravity on
>>> interacting objects. But he had no clue on the cause of gravity, on why
>>> the interacting objects are attracted to each other.
>> 
>> However many right after him, including Gauss stepped in for Newton and
>> described it in terms of a physical field. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2. Einstein’s gravitational theory, the General Relativity Theory (GRT):
>>> GRT says that interacting objects follows the curvature of space-time but
>>> that is just a description the path being followed by the interacting
>>> objects. No cause why objects follow the curvature of spacetime because
>>> spacetime is not a material medium. It is a math construct.
>> 
>> Not true. The spacetime that GR models is a physical entity, not just a
>> math construct. Not everything that is physical is material. This has been
>> known for centuries. 
> 
> If spacetime is a physical entity, please describe....BTW, assertion is
> not a valid description.

Ken, that just isn’t going to happen on a newsgroup. All you are ever going
to get on Usenet are short, undetailed responses. Explanations do not come
here. They never have. Books are the only option. 

>> 
>>> 
>>> 3. Quantum field theory of graviton:
>>> The Quantum field theory of gravity says that gravity between interacting
>>> objects is mediated by the hypothetical particle called the graviton.
>>> However the equations of graviton give rise to all sorts of infinities
>>> and thus they are not normalizable to give GRT.
>> 
>> This isn’t entirely accurate either. There are graviton theories which are
>> not customary QFTs but which exhibit no infinities. 
> 
> Why they are not adopted by physicists?

They ARE! Catch up. 

> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 4. Model Mechanics theory of gravity, the DTG:
>>> A paper on DTG is available in the following link:
>>> http://www.modelmechanics.org/2015gravity.pdf
>>> DTG posits that gravity is a composite force and that the causes of
>>> gravity between the earth and the moon are as follows:
>>> 
>>> 1. The earth and the moon are expanding in the same direction in a
>>> structured and elastic medium, called the E-Matrix, occupying all of
>>> space  as the universe expands. This causes an attractive EM force between them.
>>> 
>>> 2. The structure of the E-Matrix is divergent. The earth and the moon are
>>> confined to follow the divergent structure of the E-Matrix as the
>>> universe expands. This gives rise to a repulsive effect (force) between them.
>>> 
>>> 3. Newton’s Gravity force equation is the combined result of the above
>>> opposing forces. That's why gravity is so weak compared to the EM force alone.
>>> 
>>> 4. As you can see the combination of these opposing forces is the reason
>>> why the moon is able to maintain a stable orbit around the earth. That
>>> means that the assertion by physicists in this NG that gravity is a
>>> single attractive force and that this single attractive force of gravity
>>> is enabling the moon to maintain a stable orbit around the earth is a bogus assertion.
>>> 
>> Your idea has no calculations of any numbers, which is a prerequisite of a
>> theory. So yours is not a theory. 
> 
> You don’t know the meaning of the word “theory”. In any case I present
> the cause of gravity.
> 
> 

No, YOU don’t know the meaning of a theory. Remember, you’ve read NOTHING.
Remember, you don’t even know how the scientific method works. 

-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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What is the cause of gravity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-24 09:41 -0700
  Re: What is the cause of gravity? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-06-24 16:52 +0000
  Re: What is the cause of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-24 19:23 +0000
    Re: What is the cause of gravity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-25 06:07 -0700
      Re: What is the cause of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 14:23 +0000
        Re: What is the cause of gravity? kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2018-06-25 12:01 -0700
          Re: What is the cause of gravity? Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-25 20:40 +0000
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