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Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics

From whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics
Date 2023-07-29 16:38 -0500
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On 7/29/2023 4:06 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 12:08:15 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 7/29/2023 12:51 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 10:13:56 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>>>> On 7/28/2023 11:07 PM, Laurence Clark Crossen wrote:
>>
>>>>> The amusing thing is that Einstein wasn't a mathematician or a physicist.
>>
>>>> So what do you *think* he was?
>>
>>> I don't consider anyone a physicist who can't understand the second
>>> postulate contradicts the laws of physics, specifically Newton's first
>>> law of motion and its corollary, Galileo's law of shared velocity.
>> When a statement of "fact" is made as you did (above) it is not a
>> statement of personal opinion as you have now revised what you wrote
>> earlier.
>>
>> When anyone does this sort of thing their credibility suffers immensely.
>>
>> However there are ways to overcome that difficulty.
>>> Why don't you find out what the critics and skeptics think he was?
>> Because I don't care what the skeptics think. If one looks at Einstein's
>> statements and behavior over his lifetime they may or may not see him as
>> I do, as a narcissist. I don't detract from his intellect which clearly
>> was sharp when viewing his intellectual contributions over his lifetime.
>>
>> You have been focused quite narrowly and while there is much contention
>> about the elements within your myopic view it is clear that over the
>> past century nobody has made a case strong enough to overturn the broad
>> based acceptance of Einstein's body of work, or even any part of that.
>>
>> Should that strong a case be made I will follow the trend because I am
>> no physicist and don't plan to become so expert in the field that what I
>> say or think will have any substantial impact. Characterizing myself I
>> consider that I am an above average conversationalist with very broad
>> based interests. I readily acknowledge there are people brighter than
>> myself and in this particular discussion landscape there are plenty
>> who are inferior. As is part of the human burden I sometimes lose my
>> temper. As is true for anyone with ethics I attempt to improve.
>>
>>> Ask Roger Schlafly.
>>
>> I don't care what Roger Schlafly thinks or says. I am, at this stage
>> and for the purposes of discussions in this forum only concerned what
>> a consensus among physicists offers. Because, like me, he is not a
>> physicist, he and I are on equal footing here. If we were having a
>> discussion pertinent to mathematics Roger would have a significant
>> edge on me. Based on what I know about you the same fact set is true
>> where you are concerned.
>> I stay out of ad hominem criticisms.
>> No you do not. there are a number of statements from your persona that
>> I read as unequivocal ad hominem attacks directed at me. Bear in mind
>> that I recognize you under your current posting identification as well
>> as the one you were previously using.
>> I don't care about credentials.
>> Several times you did and you claimed I am not qualified to comment
>> in sci.physics.relativity. I have always acknowledged that I am not
>> a "professional scientist" of any sort. But under the charter for
>> this discussion group credentials are not required for participation.
>>
>> That, like so many other things, is a two sided coin.
>> Einstein doesn't really matter to me.
>> That's certainly not the impression you've made here till now. If
>> you want to rewind and reset the arguments I am certainly willing
>> to listen, but please, please, bring on the beef in future. Broad
>> generalizations don't cut it.
>>> Relativity was already formulated before him. It is relativity I
>>> take issue with. It is junk science.
>> Please bring an "A" game to the discussion. Nothing more, or less,
>> has been asked of anyone wishing to participate. Those who fall back
>> on personal invective end up in kill files because that was the
>> reason for creating that feature.
> It's amusing when a deplatformer censor wants to play moderator.

You find yourself amusing? More later.

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How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-28 11:23 -0700
  Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-28 14:48 -0500
  Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-28 16:39 -0700
    Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-28 19:14 -0500
      Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-28 20:58 -0700
        Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-28 21:07 -0700
          Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-28 21:38 -0700
            Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2023-07-28 22:25 -0700
          Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-28 23:40 -0500
          Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-29 00:13 -0500
            Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 10:51 -0700
              Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-29 14:08 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 13:14 -0700
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-30 14:17 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-07-30 22:54 +0000
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-30 16:10 -0700
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Paul Alsing <pnalsing@gmail.com> - 2023-07-30 18:46 -0700
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-07-30 22:48 -0400
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-30 20:38 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Jane <Jane@home.com> - 2023-08-01 09:17 +0000
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-08-01 15:18 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 14:06 -0700
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-29 16:38 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-30 11:12 -0700
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-30 13:58 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 21:47 -0700
            Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 10:53 -0700
              Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-07-29 14:39 -0500
                Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 13:15 -0700
  Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-28 20:44 -0700
  Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 11:20 -0700
  Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Laurence Clark Crossen <l.c.crossen@hotmail.com> - 2023-07-29 11:21 -0700
  Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-07-29 15:20 -0700
    Re: How Einstein Ruined Physics Damien Tzaregradsky <rayt@iestyats.dr> - 2023-07-30 10:37 +0000

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