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Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ...

From Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.php
Subject Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ...
Date 2013-02-22 08:57 -0500
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On 2/21/2013 7:51 PM, Richard wrote:
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> spake the secret code
> <kg66k7$b7j$1@news.albasani.net> thusly:
>
>> On 21/02/13 21:53, Richard wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> When I looked at it, it felt like COBOL.  SOOOOOO much typing.
>>>
>> Don't ever take up coding professionally.
>
> I've been paid to write software for 35 years.
>
>> The rule of 'more lines of comment than code' holds...
>
> IMO, unless you are citing sources for complex scientific computation,
> or algorithms from a referenced source (i.e. "I took this from Knuth,
> Art of Computer Programming, Volume II, pg. 235"), the need for
> comments indicates that your code isn't clear enough to begin with.
>
> See <http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?ToNeedComments>
>

Gee, you mean you've been fooling people for 35 years?  I've been doing 
it for about 10 years longer.  Comments are the MOST IMPORTANT part of 
your programming.

Your code says WHAT you are doing.  Comments say WHY you are doing it. 
Two entirely different things - and the why is more important than the what.

You've obviously never worked on large projects with multiple 
programmers, or in a structured programming environment.  Both demand 
the need for comments - and for good reason.

And the fact you had to find a wiki by some unknown "programmer" on the 
internet to "prove" your case shows just how weak it is.


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simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Simon <bad@example.com> - 2013-02-19 10:05 +0200
  Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-19 08:22 -0500
    Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2013-02-21 11:09 +0100
      Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Scott Johnson <noonehome@chalupasworld.com> - 2013-02-21 05:40 -0800
        Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2013-02-22 09:05 +0100
          Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-22 08:52 -0500
            Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2013-02-22 16:03 +0100
              Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-22 10:14 -0500
  Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-21 19:27 +0000
    Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Chris Riesbeck <Chris.Riesbeck@gmail.com> - 2013-02-21 14:08 -0600
      Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-21 21:53 +0000
        Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-02-21 22:20 +0000
          Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-22 00:51 +0000
            Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-22 11:29 +0100
              Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-22 20:21 +0000
            Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-02-22 10:49 +0000
              Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-22 20:23 +0000
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-02-22 21:41 +0100
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-23 00:39 +0000
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-22 19:51 -0500
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-24 23:49 +0000
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-24 20:17 -0500
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-02-23 07:51 +0100
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-25 00:03 +0000
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Anders Wegge Keller <wegge@wegge.dk> - 2013-02-25 19:28 +0100
            Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2013-02-22 12:24 +0100
              Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-22 20:26 +0000
            Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Simon <bad@example.com> - 2013-02-22 14:06 +0200
            Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-22 08:57 -0500
              Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... bill <william@TechServSys.com> - 2013-02-22 10:55 -0500
              Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2013-02-22 20:27 +0000
                Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2013-02-22 16:57 -0500
  Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Simon <bad@example.com> - 2013-02-22 14:15 +0200
  Re: simpletest vs phpunit vs ... Martin Musatov <marty.musatov@gmail.com> - 2013-02-22 23:38 -0800

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