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| From | pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c |
| Subject | Re: Command line arguments |
| Date | 2013-01-12 22:10 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <kcsn1h$ans$1@speranza.aioe.org> (permalink) |
| References | <gYFHs.3$OX4.0@fx16.fr7> <gw1Is.680$lO4.445@fx15.fr7> <kcqo6g$78h$1@dont-email.me> <3ncIs.609$xr.412@fx16.fr7> |
In article <3ncIs.609$xr.412@fx16.fr7>, BartC <bc@freeuk.com> wrote: > >I will, as soon as some of my own tools are ported over. (I'm struggling >getting even the keyboard to behave itself at the moment, trying to get >things to work that had been sorted out years ago under Windows. Do other >people use ncurses, or do they have to delve deeper into the system to get >even basic shift+ctrl combos working?) I assure you, the Linux console and xterm are more accurate emulations of the VT100 than anything you ever saw in Windows (unless you had a Windows xterm) The terminal interface is based on streams of characters, corresponding to stdin and stdout/stderr. The format of these streams is usually ASCII or a superset of ASCII like ISO8859-x or UTF-8. Where in any of those character sets do you find "shift+ctrl combos"? xterm reports modifiers as part of the escape sequence for control keys, so you can distinguish F1 from Ctrl+F1 from Shift+Ctrl+F1 (see ctlseqs.txt for details) but not for normal keys. If you think Shift+Ctrl+S should send something different from Ctrl+S, you are thinking very non-ASCII-compatible. Those both need to be ASCII code 19 or we'll all go insane. Raw keyboard access is possible on the console (see KDSKBMODE in console_ioctl(4)), but not a good idea for any program that wants to appear even slightly normal. It's a complete keyboard takeover. VT switching will not work, leaving the user trapped unless you detect the Alt+Fn key combinations and handle them yourself. Very rude. [n]curses only attempts to organize the common features of the traditional terminal types in a coherent way, and raw keyboard mode isn't one of them. When your input scheme isn't ASCII or UTF-8, you need a more ambitious library than curses. Like SDL, or an X11 widget library (Xt+Xaw/Xm, tk, wxWidgets, gtk, etc.) or raw Xlib. -- Alan Curry
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Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 20:58 +0000
Re: Command line arguments pu <uselpa.list@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 22:02 +0100
Re: Command line arguments pu <uselpa.list@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 14:43 +0100
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 19:10 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Willem <willem@turtle.stack.nl> - 2013-01-10 21:02 +0000
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 21:34 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2013-01-10 22:02 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Greg Martin <greg@softsprocket.com> - 2013-01-10 14:13 -0800
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-10 22:32 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2013-01-10 17:49 -0500
Re: Command line arguments BruceS <bruces42@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-10 16:05 -0700
Re: Command line arguments Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2013-01-10 18:15 -0500
Re: Command line arguments JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2013-01-11 06:54 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 02:26 -0500
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 09:02 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2013-01-11 11:17 -0700
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 13:20 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2013-01-11 13:13 -0700
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 19:22 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Fred K <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 14:42 -0800
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 01:22 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-12 01:39 +0000
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 03:16 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-12 09:49 -0800
Re: Command line arguments JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2013-01-12 04:14 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-13 20:19 +0200
Re: Command line arguments JohnF <john@please.see.sig.for.email.com> - 2013-01-14 04:56 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-22 15:32 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Ken Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2013-01-22 15:25 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Fred K <fred.l.kleinschmidt@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 14:49 -0800
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 00:11 +0000
Re: Command line arguments James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-10 21:16 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2013-01-11 21:25 -0600
Re: Command line arguments James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-10 21:05 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 21:15 -0500
Re: Command line arguments 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-11 01:36 -0800
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 19:33 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 14:57 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-11 14:26 -0600
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 20:49 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-11 18:15 -0600
Re: Command line arguments Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-12 01:11 +0000
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 01:38 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 14:57 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 18:08 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-13 00:42 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-13 12:31 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 04:54 -0600
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-13 12:37 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-11 15:54 -0500
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 21:16 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Greg Martin <greg@softsprocket.com> - 2013-01-11 13:17 -0800
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 22:48 +0000
Re: Command line arguments gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2013-01-11 22:53 +0000
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-11 23:46 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-11 18:12 -0600
Re: Command line arguments Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2013-01-11 19:59 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-12 01:32 +0000
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-12 02:47 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-12 03:23 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2013-01-11 22:28 -0700
Re: Command line arguments Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-11 18:54 -0800
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 03:42 +0000
Re: Command line arguments James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-11 23:18 -0500
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-12 12:06 +0000
Re: Command line arguments James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-12 11:43 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2013-01-12 10:27 -0700
Re: Command line arguments Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-12 10:22 -0800
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-12 20:26 +0000
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 20:53 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-12 16:58 -0800
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-13 01:51 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-13 00:27 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Sjouke Burry <s@b> - 2013-01-14 06:00 +0000
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-14 21:44 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-12 16:10 -0500
Re: Command line arguments "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-12 21:25 +0000
Re: Command line arguments pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2013-01-12 22:10 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-13 01:30 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-12 20:47 -0800
Re: (OT keyboard input) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2013-01-13 08:46 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 03:56 -0600
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-13 12:10 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2013-01-13 11:21 -0500
Re: (OT keyboard input) 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-13 09:43 -0800
Re: (OT keyboard input) "osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2013-01-13 12:09 -0600
Re: (OT keyboard input) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2013-01-13 20:34 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-13 21:58 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Dr Nick <nospam-4@temporary-address.org.uk> - 2013-01-13 22:26 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Greg Martin <greg@softsprocket.com> - 2013-01-13 14:51 -0800
Re: (OT keyboard input) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-13 23:47 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2013-01-14 01:34 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-13 23:53 -0500
Re: (OT keyboard input) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-14 00:26 -0600
Re: (OT keyboard input) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-14 07:36 -0500
Re: (OT keyboard input) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-14 13:40 -0600
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-14 14:23 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-14 13:36 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-14 09:25 -0500
Re: (OT keyboard input) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-14 21:09 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-14 22:06 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-01-15 08:16 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-15 11:50 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-15 07:53 -0800
Re: (OT keyboard input) Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2013-01-15 20:26 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-15 21:08 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-15 22:19 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-15 20:37 -0500
Re: (OT keyboard input) Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-16 02:24 -0600
Re: (OT keyboard input) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-16 04:28 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2013-01-16 06:44 -0500
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-16 13:57 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-16 14:32 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2013-01-17 00:35 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2013-01-15 23:51 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) pacman@kosh.dhis.org (Alan Curry) - 2013-01-14 21:15 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2013-01-14 21:59 +0000
Re: (OT keyboard input) Greg Martin <greg@softsprocket.com> - 2013-01-13 10:04 -0800
Re: (OT keyboard input) Roberto Waltman <usenet@rwaltman.com> - 2013-01-13 20:09 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Geoff <geoff@invalid.invalid> - 2013-01-10 23:47 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> - 2013-01-13 20:03 +0200
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-10 22:30 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 18:12 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-10 18:15 -0500
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-11 00:16 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-10 15:46 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2013-01-10 17:58 -0700
Re: Command line arguments Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2013-01-11 09:26 +0100
Re: Command line arguments Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2013-01-11 21:23 -0600
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-12 03:45 +0000
Re: Command line arguments Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2013-01-11 20:52 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.com> - 2013-01-11 23:21 -0600
Re: Command line arguments Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2013-01-12 09:52 -0800
Re: Command line arguments James Dow Allen <jdallen2000@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-13 01:22 -0800
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-13 11:11 -0500
Re: Command line arguments Azazel <azazel@remove.azazel.net> - 2013-01-14 09:26 -0600
Re: Command line arguments Shao Miller <sha0.miller@gmail.com> - 2013-01-14 17:08 -0500
Re: Command line arguments glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2013-01-14 23:13 +0000
Re: Command line arguments 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2013-01-14 22:11 -0800
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