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Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive)

From Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux.ubuntu, comp.os.linux.misc, comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive)
Date 2012-07-23 14:36 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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On 2012-07-22, Jonathan N. Little <lws4art@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ignoramus22200 wrote:
>> I have a Nikon D80 camera. It uses Fat16 or some such filesystem on
>> its SDHC drives.
[...]
>> The problem is that, after every couple of months, the Flash drives
>> crap out and need to be replaced.

> Simple, don't delete the images when they are transferred until the card 
> is almost full. And when he does transfer images only transfer the new 
> ones, i.e., don't overwrite existing. Most s/w like Shotwell have a 
> setting for that.

My guess is that won't help.  If there's no wear-levelling, it's
probably the allocation table blocks and the meta-data tables that are
wearing out.  Those blocks get erased and overwritten each time you
add a file.  Couldn't hurt to try, though...

I would expect a quality flash card (SD, CF, whatever) would do
internal wear levelling and bad-block replacement.  But, back when I
was working on a product that included a CF card, we couldn't gey a
single vendor to specify any sort of failure rate, reliability, or
wear-levelling.

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Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Ignoramus22200 <ignoramus22200@NOSPAM.22200.invalid> - 2012-07-21 20:40 -0500
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2012-07-22 02:07 +0000
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-07-22 00:37 -0400
    Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Ignoramus2844 <ignoramus2844@NOSPAM.2844.invalid> - 2012-07-22 08:51 -0500
      Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2012-07-22 19:33 +0200
      Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-23 14:38 +0000
    Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-23 14:36 +0000
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Vic RR Garcia <VicGar007@at-gmail.dot.com> - 2012-07-22 06:35 -0400
    Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-22 05:17 -0700
    Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Ignoramus2844 <ignoramus2844@NOSPAM.2844.invalid> - 2012-07-22 08:53 -0500
      Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) David Brown <david.brown@removethis.hesbynett.no> - 2012-07-22 21:26 +0200
      Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Roy Strachan-12 <rdstrac@shaw.ca> - 2012-07-23 15:32 +0000
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) TheGlimmerMan <justaglimmer@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> - 2012-07-22 04:37 -0700
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) James Moe <jimoeDESPAM@sohnen-moe.com> - 2012-07-23 11:03 -0700
    Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-07-23 20:28 +0000
      Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-23 23:40 +0100
        Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Christoph Schmees <cjws@nurfuerspam.de> - 2012-07-24 13:01 +0200
          Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-24 05:45 -0700
            Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-07-24 09:34 -0400
              Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4art@gmail.com> - 2012-07-24 18:13 -0400
              Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-24 17:55 -0700
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-25 07:40 +0100
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-25 01:21 -0700
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-25 10:20 +0100
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-25 05:05 -0700
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) "Cybe R. Wizard" <cybe_r_wizard@wizardstower> - 2012-07-25 07:24 -0500
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-25 18:37 +0100
            Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-24 16:20 +0100
              Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Vic RR Garcia <VicGar007@at-gmail.dot.com> - 2012-07-24 20:45 -0400
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-24 18:08 -0700
              Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-24 18:00 -0700
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-25 07:43 +0100
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) MrTallyman <MrTallyman@BananaCountersRUs.org> - 2012-07-25 01:34 -0700
                Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2012-07-25 18:24 +0000
          Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) ray <ray@zianet.com> - 2012-07-25 15:14 +0000
            Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-25 18:38 +0100
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Stan Bischof <stan@worldbadminton.com> - 2012-07-24 12:53 +0000
    Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-07-24 16:20 +0100
      Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Stan Bischof <stan@worldbadminton.com> - 2012-07-24 15:31 +0000
        Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2012-07-24 12:27 -0400
  Re: Wear leveling for the poor? (FAT filesystem on Flash drive) "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> - 2012-07-31 09:47 +0100

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