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Re: A question for this group...

From Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: A question for this group...
Date 2012-05-15 20:56 +0000
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 13:24:35 -0700, William Ahern wrote:

> Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>> If somebody asks:
>>
>>         Why does it hurt when I stick my finger in a light socket?
>>
>> Is it universally true that the only possible answer is:
>>
>>         Don't stick your fingers in light sockets.
>>
>> Is it really true that an explanation of how electricity works and how
>> your body is a conductor (and, in particular, how the real issue is how
>> well grounded your body is) is never appropriate?
>>
>> This seems to be the attitude of this group - see in particular the
>> recent "Program Output" thread.
> 
> Your light socket analogy is a perfect example. Anyone who has grown up
> in an electrified civilization knows from an extremely early age that
> electricity can be dangerous, and that a light socket is associated with
> electricity . With this background knowledge, they would never ask "why
> does it hurt when I do X" unless they were being lazy or naive. If he
> weren't lazy or naive, he would have made the association with
> electricity and reformed the question appropriately.
> 
> A common response to both laziness and naivety is sarcasm. It signals to
> the person that they need to rethink their question in a very
> fundamental way; that perhaps they're in deeper water than they think.
> 
> I went through the thread you mentioned (sans Google Groups posts). I
> think the responses were just fine. They rightfully didn't talk down to
> the OP. The responses were accurate, and they signaled to the OP that
> his analytical investment in the issue was poor. If he can't interpret
> that signal, then he's not prepared to learn anything.

I agree with this. Many posters to this group are lazy, ignorant, stupid 
or all three. There's only so much time and effort it's worth putting 
into helping someone swim, when natural selection seems to have chosen 
that person to sink.

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A question for this group... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-05-15 17:41 +0000
  Re: A question for this group... "Chine Bleu, Russie Blanche, et Khmer Rouge" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-15 10:44 -0700
    Re: A question for this group... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-05-15 14:06 -0400
  Re: A question for this group... William Ahern <william@wilbur.25thandClement.com> - 2012-05-15 13:24 -0700
    Re: A question for this group... Quentin Pope <qp19433@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> - 2012-05-15 20:56 +0000
      Re: A question for this group... nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-05-16 03:41 -0700
  Re: A question for this group... Old Wolf <oldwolf@inspire.net.nz> - 2012-05-16 02:31 -0700
  Re: A question for this group... nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-05-16 03:53 -0700
    Re: A question for this group... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-05-16 14:08 +0000
      Re: A question for this group... Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-16 14:49 +0000
        Re: A question for this group... Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> - 2012-05-16 14:59 +0000
      Re: A question for this group... Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2012-05-16 16:05 +0000
      Re: A question for this group... Old Wolf <oldwolf@inspire.net.nz> - 2012-05-16 14:29 -0700
    Re: A question for this group... Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2012-05-16 18:18 -0500
  Re: A question for this group... Robert Miles <milesrf@Usenet-News.net> - 2012-06-23 23:22 -0500
  Re: A question for this group... Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-25 02:41 -0700
    Re: A question for this group... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-06-25 16:29 +0000
      Re: A question for this group... nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-26 08:27 -0700
        Re: A question for this group... gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2012-06-27 09:05 +0000
          Re: A question for this group... nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-27 03:57 -0700
        Re: A question for this group... Neil Cerutti <neilc@norwich.edu> - 2012-06-27 13:49 +0000
          Re: A question for this group... "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-28 09:19 +0200
            Re: A question for this group... nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-06-28 01:59 -0700
              Re: A question for this group... Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-28 04:18 -0700
                Re: A question for this group... Heikki Kallasjoki <fis+usenet@zem.fi> - 2012-06-28 12:14 +0000
                Re: A question for this group... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-28 08:28 -0400
                Re: A question for this group... James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2012-06-28 08:33 -0400
                Re: A question for this group... Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2012-06-28 13:07 -0700
                Re: A question for this group... David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2012-07-19 02:40 -0400
              Re: A question for this group... "io_x" <a@b.c.invalid> - 2012-06-28 18:58 +0200
                Re: A question for this group... Andrew Cooper <amc96@cam.ac.uk> - 2012-06-29 01:11 +0100
                Re: A question for this group... Philip Lantz <prl@canterey.us> - 2012-07-05 00:21 -0700
                Re: A question for this group... nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com - 2012-07-06 00:24 -0700
                Re: A question for this group... Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2012-07-06 17:43 -0700

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