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Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional

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On 04/09/2012 01:35 PM, Mr. B-o-B wrote:
> I was curious about peoples thoughts in regards to OOP with PHP.
>
> Are there pro's/con's of writing OOP code versus procedural/functional
> coding?
>
> Strictly speaking for PHP, I do the bulk of my coding as
> procedural/functional. I really haven't found any added benefit to going
> the OOP route.
>
> Am I missing something, or is it just a different approach to the same
> problem?

OOP is basically a good idea carried to an extreme.

There is a boatload of value in the concept of inheritance, but that's 
largely negated by the mechanics of how inheritance is done in OOP 
languages.

Polymorphism is something that's more in the eye of the programmer than 
in the language, data constructs can be specific or generalized.

The idea that making something into an object gives it superior 
robustness is a joke if you can step back and look at it.

I remember writing a Java application and trying to derive an actually 
useful string class from the garbage they had declared "final" and that 
was it for me and Java.  I cannot begin to count the times when I've had 
to hoke up an object pointer to use some simple processing method that 
was part of a C++ class.

Of course that's all personal opinion.  I avoid all OOP constructs in 
PHP wherever I can, the more closely I can make it resemble C the easier 
it will be to convert it when the time comes.  There is one exception to 
that in my code, one of the zip functionalities is only supported 
through some objects... that stuff is encapsulated in a subroutine.

Since I value inheritance I've build myself a layered methodology that 
lets me override various functions by adding or inserting different 
layers at runtime.

Perhaps the nicest thing about programming is that it puts the lie to 
religious adherences... as one of my college instructors put it, "if 
your program works for all cases it is by definition correct".

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OOP versus Procedural/Functional "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2012-04-09 14:35 -0500
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-04-09 21:59 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-09 22:46 +0100
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2012-04-09 19:29 -0700
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-09 16:55 -0400
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-10 00:34 +0200
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2012-04-10 10:14 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-10 12:06 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 13:04 +0100
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-10 16:07 +0100
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 16:28 +0100
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-10 12:08 -0400
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-10 19:14 +0200
          Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 18:19 +0100
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2012-04-10 14:49 +0200
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2012-04-10 17:29 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 16:34 +0100
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-04-11 05:16 -0600
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2012-04-11 16:25 +0200
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-11 13:06 -0400
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-11 18:18 +0100
          Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-11 16:24 -0400
            Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-11 22:43 +0100
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-04-12 05:54 -0600
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-11 19:09 +0200
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-04-12 05:56 -0600
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-12 17:33 +0200
          Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-12 13:18 -0400

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