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Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional

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El 09/04/2012 21:35, Mr. B-o-B escribió/wrote:
> I was curious about peoples thoughts in regards to OOP with PHP.
>
> Are there pro's/con's of writing OOP code versus procedural/functional
> coding?
>
> Strictly speaking for PHP, I do the bulk of my coding as
> procedural/functional. I really haven't found any added benefit to going
> the OOP route.
>
> Am I missing something, or is it just a different approach to the same
> problem?

IMHO, OOP suffers from two problems that aren't actually intrinsic to it:

1. For many people, it's a religion. This leads to endless debates about 
design patterns and implementation subtleties that replace actual code 
typing. It also leads to teachers and teaching materials that focus on 
how utterly complex and philosophical OOP is rather than how useful it 
is. (There seems to be a endless flow of OOP tutorials out there that 
explain how to code cats and dogs and, apparently, it requires many 
lines of code.)

2. Discussions about OOP always assume that there's only one type of 
application to be written and only one type of team to write it: the 
mega enterprisey ERP financed by a big-bucks customer maintained by a 
20+ team.

To make it worse, most of the noise comes from fairly experienced 
non-PHP programmers who are forced to code in a language they neither 
understand nor like and get frustrated when they can't make PHP behave 
like Java.

OOP is a tool. It's a darn good tool and it's just one more tool: that 
says it all. I suffer when I see a thousand lines of getters and setters 
that actually do nothing and I suffer when I see a shopping cart build 
on top of 5-level nested arrays.


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OOP versus Procedural/Functional "Mr. B-o-B" <mr.chew.baka@gmail.com> - 2012-04-09 14:35 -0500
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2012-04-09 21:59 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-09 22:46 +0100
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2012-04-09 19:29 -0700
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-09 16:55 -0400
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-10 00:34 +0200
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2012-04-10 10:14 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-10 12:06 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 13:04 +0100
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-10 16:07 +0100
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 16:28 +0100
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-10 12:08 -0400
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-10 19:14 +0200
          Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 18:19 +0100
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de> - 2012-04-10 14:49 +0200
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "Álvaro G. Vicario" <alvaro.NOSPAMTHANX@demogracia.com.invalid> - 2012-04-10 17:29 +0200
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-10 16:34 +0100
  Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-04-11 05:16 -0600
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Goran <goran@nospam.com> - 2012-04-11 16:25 +0200
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-11 13:06 -0400
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-11 18:18 +0100
          Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-11 16:24 -0400
            Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2012-04-11 22:43 +0100
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-04-12 05:54 -0600
    Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-11 19:09 +0200
      Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional crankypuss <no@email.thanks> - 2012-04-12 05:56 -0600
        Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional "M. Strobel" <sorry_no_mail_here@nowhere.dee> - 2012-04-12 17:33 +0200
          Re: OOP versus Procedural/Functional Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2012-04-12 13:18 -0400

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