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Re (3) ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack?

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In article <jkk6ms$jt$1@dont-email.me>, Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> wrote: 

> On 24.3.12 7:58 , no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:
> > In article<jkfv56$8gb$1@dont-email.me>, Tauno Voipio<tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid>  wrote:

> > I.e. HOW2 connect the program that 'rides on linux',
> > to the ppp layer.
> >
> 
> I'm pretty sure that you do not want to connect directly
> to the PPP (packet transport) layer from an application program.
> 
> The electronic mail, as we know it in the Internet, runs on
> the SMTP (and POP or IMAP) protocols. All of these protocols
> are running on TCP stream transport. TCP uses IP for moving
> the segments as IP packets. IP can use several different
> protocols for moving the packets. Some of them are SLIP,
> PPP and Ethernet (with ARP).
> 
> The stack looks like this:
> 
>    SMTP   POP    IMAP
>           TCP
>           IP
>    SLIP   PPP   Ethernet
>      Modem      Net cable
> 
> Helper protocols left out.
> 
> In Linux, the way to access the protocol stack is via the
> C library, libc, using socket connections. There are
> different kinds of sockets for connecting to different
> layers of the stack.
> 
---> That's the key:libc, using socket connections.
I'd like to connect to linux at the highest/application level.

> My understanding of Oberon is that it contains interface
> modules from Oberon code to the C library, which is the
> native connection in Linux.
> 
> There are special interfaces, tunnel and ethertap, for
> creating non-standard network interfaces at the network
> or physical layer.
> 
> The question is:
> 
> What are you really attempting to achieve?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Tauno Voipio
Currently and for the forseeable future good text processing is the
most important facility for general computing.

ETHO [family] is the best -- IMO.
ETHO dates back to the 90's with versions:
DOSbased, Win?, NativeX86
 and a later version LinuxNativeOberon,
 then LEO [a pasted the full name previously].
 
 The source code of all modules for the different versions,
 is identical, except for the hardware interfacing.
 
 Because I had problems of my ISP introducing TxAuthenticate,
 I had to look into the mailer's source code.  But I want to be able
 to do USEnet & http also- like I can onj THIS LEO.  I've been using 
 LEO for some years. And I open exta copies to handle problematic
 tasks, perhaps the way an emacs-guru would.
 
 I've installed non-X linux onto a CompactFlash on a netbook,
 which allows LNO to run [but not LEO].
 
 When LNO was installed on a PC with a serial-port, it could
 ppp via the modem.  But the netbook has no serial port, and
 I have already sweated-bullets to get the netbook under
 linux to communicate with a wireless-modem.
 
 So I want to be able to use the superior TextUserInterface of
 LNO, and connect to the internet via the linux - wireless modem.
 
 == Chris Glur.
 
 

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ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-03-22 19:28 +0000
  Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2012-03-22 21:39 +0200
    Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2012-03-22 20:07 +0000
      Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-03-22 16:27 -0400
        Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2012-03-22 16:44 -0400
        Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Allodoxaphobia <knock_yourself_out@example.net> - 2012-03-23 02:43 +0000
      Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2012-03-22 21:12 +0000
    Re: ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? "Chris Burrows" <cfbsoftware@hotmail.com> - 2012-03-23 19:10 +1030
    Re (2): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-03-23 23:21 +0000
    Re (2+): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-03-24 05:58 +0000
      Re: Re (2+): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2012-03-24 12:12 +0200
        Re (3) ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-03-24 18:24 +0000
    Re (2+++): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-03-24 17:22 +0000
      Re: Re (2+++): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2012-03-25 15:17 +0300
        Re: Re (2+++): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2012-03-25 12:31 +0000
        Re (2+++): ETHO interfacing linux IP:stack? no.top.post@gmail.com - 2012-03-25 14:26 +0000

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