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Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)??

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Le 25/11/11 09:40, Nick Keighley a écrit :
>
> gcc on linux is fine. It may even be fixed on Windows for all I know.
>

This is the contrary to my experience and the experience of all the
people at work.

We have a huge C++ program (a database management system) written in
C++ and we run under linux and windows.

Nobody ever develops under linux, the problem is that there, the
only choice you have is the terrible gcc/gdb combination, what
makes any debugging and developing an incredible effort.

Under windows we use the C++ IDE above all for the Go To Definition
feature, what saves us HOURS of grepping each week. As you (may)
know, with several dozens of overloaded functions of the same name
it is impossible to know which function will be called unless
you have an exact map of the class structure and template structure
of the application.

Problem is, the application is too big to fit in the head of a single
developer as a whole, nobody unerstand all the details since the
application has been debeloped by the team for over 6 years.

Many people have left and come, and it is today not possible to debug
a problem without having this feature.

When you develop, the IDE proposes you choices that avoid common
mistaks and allow you to think more into WHAT are you writing rather
than

"Was it SomeCompositeName, someCompositeName or some_composite_name"?

Yes, pedants will start with "Ahhh but you should have enforced
consistent naming conventions" and all that crap that is good in theory
but never found in real programs.

Another problem of gcc is that it generates slower executables than
MSVC, and specially slower than the Intel compiler, the best x86
compiler around.

Under linux, it is impossible to avoid the gcc/gdb combination but using
a windows machine we can still use the "Go to definition" feature
if we run in parallel the gdb debugger and the Visual C++ IDE.

And no, Eclipse is not usable. Written in Java, it chockes at the
hundred thousands of lines of the application.

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A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-23 09:42 -0800
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid> - 2011-11-23 12:46 -0500
    Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-23 10:37 -0800
      Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-24 08:05 +1300
        Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "W. eWatson" <wolftracks@invalid.com> - 2011-11-24 07:10 -0800
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-23 20:24 +0100
    Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Ebenezer <woodbrian77@gmail.com> - 2011-11-23 12:18 -0800
      Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Krice <paulkp@mbnet.fi> - 2011-11-25 01:34 -0800
        [OT] Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-11-25 17:01 -0600
    Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-24 01:59 -0800
      Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? ralph <nt_consulting64@yahoo.net> - 2011-11-24 10:59 -0600
        Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-25 00:40 -0800
          Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? jacob navia <jacob@spamsink.net> - 2011-11-25 11:40 +0100
            Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-27 02:47 -0800
            Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Thomas Boell <tboell@domain.invalid> - 2011-11-27 16:56 +0100
            Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Adrien Haxaire <nntp@adrienhaxaire.org> - 2011-12-06 10:48 +0100
          Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-26 00:30 +0000
            Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-27 02:49 -0800
          Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2011-11-27 22:39 +0100
        Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-11-25 12:29 +0000
          Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? ralph <nt_consulting64@yahoo.net> - 2011-11-25 22:38 -0600
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2011-11-23 21:27 +0100
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2011-11-23 14:38 -0600
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? puppi <fabricio.puppi@gmail.com> - 2011-11-23 17:40 -0800
    Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-24 02:00 -0800
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? XeCycle <xecycle@gmail.com> - 2011-11-24 12:05 +0800
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Vincenzo Mercuri <vincenzo.mercuri@yahoo.it> - 2011-11-24 20:38 +0100
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-25 03:14 +0000
    Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 12:31 +0100
      Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-25 14:37 +0000
      Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-26 00:38 +0000
        Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 01:46 +0100
          Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-26 00:57 +0000
          Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-26 01:00 +0000
            Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 02:08 +0100
              Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-26 02:32 +0000
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-26 15:47 +1300
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-26 03:27 +0000
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-26 11:00 +0100
                [OT] A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Leigh Johnston <leigh@i42.co.uk> - 2011-11-26 12:56 +0000
                Re: [OT] A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? "Asger Joergensen" <Junk@Asger-P.dk> - 2011-11-26 13:46 +0000
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Squeamizh <squeamz@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-26 08:50 -0800
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? gwowen <gwowen@gmail.com> - 2011-11-28 01:47 -0800
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Tobias Müller <troplin@bluewin.ch> - 2011-11-26 12:46 +0000
            Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-27 02:58 -0800
              Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard) - 2011-11-28 02:42 +0000
                Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-11-28 01:20 -0600
      Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-27 02:55 -0800
        Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Gert-Jan de Vos <gert-jan.de.vos@onsneteindhoven.nl> - 2011-11-27 07:05 -0800
  Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2011-11-25 21:24 +0800

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