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| From | "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: A free version of C++ on Win (7)?? |
| Date | 2011-11-26 01:46 +0100 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <japcso$e6e$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | <jajbao$6jj$4@dont-email.me> <jan17i$rua$1@news.xmission.com> <janu9v$1fg$1@dont-email.me> <japcdt$v6j$2@news.xmission.com> |
On 26.11.2011 01:38, Richard wrote:
> [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
>
> "Alf P. Steinbach"<alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> spake the secret code
> <janu9v$1fg$1@dont-email.me> thusly:
>
>> On 25.11.2011 04:14, Richard wrote:
>>> Using gcc or other *nix-derived compilers is fine *if* you never intend
>>> to write programs that use the Win32 API or anything other than POSIX
>>> style system interfaces. Otherwise, its just too much pain and I'd
>>> recommend using the Visual C++ Express Edition instead.
>>
>> Well that's highly misleading.
>>
>> MinGW g++ supports ordinary API level programming, which covers most of
>> the Windows API.
>
> Based on the number of times I've seen people desperate for help in
> getting MinGW working over the years, I don't see the point of trying
> to use that and get it to work ("most" of the Windows API?), instead
> of just using the free Visual C++ Express Edition and knowing its Just
> Going To Work and you will have ALL of the Windows API guaranteed.
>
>> It's true that Visual C++ *enables* you to write standard code.
>>
>> But sometimes you have to work really hard at it. Like, when it
>> presumably with the best of intentions try to help you by rewriting your
>> standard-compliant XHTML code [...]
>
> This has nothing to do with C++.
>
>> [much whinging about _tmain, stdafx.h, etc.]
>
> Like I said, all this stuff is documented.
>
> The rest of your complaints are straw man arguments.
>
> The question wasn't "what is the best way to TEACH STANDARD C++".
> The question was: "Where can I get a free C++ compiler for Windows
> programming?".
>
> Visual C++ Express Edition is a perfectly usable answer to the
> poster's question.
I replied to your incorrect assertion that "As for Visual C++ "tricking"
you into using Windows specific items, I'd say that's just disgruntled
*nix fanboy sentiment talking.".
You now chose to snip that from the quotes.
And to also add a false assertion about what I was replying to.
That may be unsmart (not understanding the discussion), or dishonest.
Given your classification of me as a "'nix fanboy" I'd say it's unsmart.
Cheers & hth.,
- Alf
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