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Re: Character Array vs String

From "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: Character Array vs String
Date 2011-11-09 21:26 +0000
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"Tobias Blass" <tobiasblass@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> On 2011-11-09, Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> wrote:

>> large. A bit like the decision to encode newline/carriage return as
>> just a newline. It saved a byte, but to this day text files won't
>> display properly on Windows as a result.
>
> Well Windows developed after UNIX, so they could have adopted the \n
> encoding if they wanted to. You could as well reverse your argument and
> say "but to this day text files won't display properly on *NIX as a
> result" (most *NIX utilities can handle \r\n encodings, though). I also
> don't think \n was used to save a byte(CMIIW).  \n is more "natural" (you
> want a newline, so you add a newline character), but \r\n is more natural
> if you are used to typewriters. Since typewriters are quite rare these
> days I think the *NIX way makes more sense, but YMMV.

Anyone who's used a teletype will know that both carriage return and
linefeed are usually necessary!

So it made sense to include both of those characters in text files, and this
was long before Windows.

On input of course, only one character is transmitted (when Return is
pressed), and the TTY software ensures it would be echoed as CR followed by 
LF. Perhaps Unix modelled the input sequence rather than output.

-- 
Bartc 

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Character Array vs String Sheky <shekhar07.nitdgp@gmail.com> - 2011-11-09 03:09 -0800
  Re: Character Array vs String Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-09 03:28 -0800
  Re: Character Array vs String James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-09 06:52 -0500
  Re: Character Array vs String Quentin Carbonneaux <qcarbonn@invalid.com> - 2011-11-09 12:01 +0000
    Re: Character Array vs String 88888 Dihedral <dihedral88888@googlemail.com> - 2011-11-09 04:48 -0800
      Re: Character Array vs String Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-09 05:53 -0800
        Re: Character Array vs String "osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2011-11-09 09:44 -0600
          Re: Character Array vs String Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-10 00:57 -0800
            Re: Character Array vs String "osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2011-11-10 08:56 -0600
              Re: Character Array vs String Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-10 08:16 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String "Joachim Schmitz" <nospam.jojo@schmitz-digital.de> - 2011-11-10 18:34 +0100
                Re: Character Array vs String Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-11-10 14:08 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-11-10 20:52 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-11 01:29 -0800
              Re: Character Array vs String Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2011-11-10 12:29 -0500
              Re: Character Array vs String lawrence.jones@siemens.com - 2011-11-10 12:32 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-10 12:41 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring) - 2011-11-11 13:12 +0000
              Re: Character Array vs String David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2011-11-21 02:39 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-11-23 11:39 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-23 17:15 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Kaz Kylheku <kaz@kylheku.com> - 2011-11-23 18:48 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Ben Pfaff <blp@cs.stanford.edu> - 2011-11-23 10:58 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Patrick Scheible <kkt@zipcon.net> - 2011-11-27 20:21 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2012-01-19 02:43 -0500
        Re: Character Array vs String Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-09 07:48 -0800
          Re: Character Array vs String James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-09 11:06 -0500
            Re: Character Array vs String Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-11-09 16:24 +0000
              Re: Character Array vs String James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-09 11:30 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-09 16:53 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Willem <willem@toad.stack.nl> - 2011-11-09 17:05 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-09 08:54 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Tobias Blass <tobiasblass@gmx.net> - 2011-11-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-09 21:26 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-10 01:11 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String David Thompson <dave.thompson2@verizon.net> - 2011-11-21 02:39 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-21 00:15 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-09 14:06 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2011-11-09 19:32 -0600
                Re: Character Array vs String Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-11-10 03:21 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-10 11:00 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-10 03:26 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2011-11-10 12:04 +0000
                Re: Character Array vs String Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2011-11-21 12:02 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Kenneth Brody <kenbrody@spamcop.net> - 2011-11-23 11:42 -0500
                Re: Character Array vs String Uno <merrilljensen@q.com> - 2011-11-27 22:46 -0700
                Re: Character Array vs String Lew Pitcher <lpitcher@teksavvy.com> - 2011-11-27 23:30 -0800
                Re: Character Array vs String Nick Keighley <nick_keighley_nospam@hotmail.com> - 2011-11-28 00:22 -0800
        Re: Character Array vs String Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-09 13:59 -0800
    Re: Character Array vs String James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-09 08:36 -0500
      Re: Character Array vs String Quentin Carbonneaux <qcarbonn@invalid.com> - 2011-11-09 14:06 +0000
    Re: Character Array vs String Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2011-11-09 05:38 -0800
    Re: Character Array vs String Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2011-11-09 13:52 -0800
  Re: Character Array vs String Eric Sosman <esosman@ieee-dot-org.invalid> - 2011-11-09 07:39 -0500
  Re: Character Array vs String "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2011-11-09 13:51 +0000
  Re: Character Array vs String John Bode <jfbode1029@gmail.com> - 2011-11-23 19:32 -0800
    Re: Character Array vs String James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> - 2011-11-24 11:49 -0500

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