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| From | yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.lang.c++ |
| Subject | Re: Is there a term for all tasks around programming? |
| Date | 2011-09-26 11:04 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <j5pm7f$ig2$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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In article <4e7e4339$0$16765$a729d347@news.telepac.pt>, Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> wrote: > >Which mailing list are we talking about? Are you referring to >comp.lang.c++? Because claiming that this newsgroup is "dedicated to >engineering", or even insinuating that writing C++ code is engineering, >would be an even more glaring mistake. > > >> or >> maybe you are right that software makers should be responsible >> for bugs, I've heard of some EU efforts towards such laws, which >> are meant to protect consumers; they are not meant to result >> in criminal punishments though. > >I haven't made such a claim, nor I believe I will ever do, mainly because it >goes against society's best interests to increase the costs associated with >developing software. Society doesn't grind to a halt, nor does it suffer >any relevant losses, if a text editor segfaults or if an OS throws a blue >screen of death. This statement is rather confused. You give two examples of what you consider software bugs with minor consequences. However, in the modern world, the consequences of a bug in software have to potential to dwarf almost any other traditional engineering discipline mistakes. Society wouldn't grind to a halt either if a construction project of a local shopping mall gets delayed because the Civil Engineer didn't do his computations correctly, a roof collapse and they need to demolish a large part of the building in order to restart on solid fundations. On the other hand, society would pretty much grind to a halt if the software that is used to compute peoples income tax starts misbehaving and starts sending a large amount of overdue tax claims all around the country. Society would pretty much grind to a halt if a bug in fly-by-wire or ILS caused a few aircrafts to crash. Society could literally grind to a halt if the traffic control system software of a major city started misbehaving. So certainly, the difference between engineering and not engineering can't be based solely on the potential consequences of a mistake. Yannick
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