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Re: UTF-8 and strings

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John M. Dlugosz wrote:
> On Jun 8, 7:19 am, "MikeP" <mp011...@some.org> wrote:
>> Jorgen Grahn wrote:
>>> Of course, if the trend is "let the normal representation of strings
>>> be UTF-8" then the answer doesn't matter.
>>
>> What is this/the enamourment with UTF-8 anyway?
>
> There are a few:
>
> (1)  Old code is written using byte-size character strings of *some*
> kind.  For languages larger character sets, the existing practice is
> to use a "multi-byte" code page, and actually have variable length
> where ASCII is still a single byte and certain ranges of character
> indicate prefixes or paired use.
>
> So lots of code uses byte strings with "internationalization" meaning
> to allow the target system to specify the mapping of which character
> is what value, and allowing multi-byte characters mixed with single
> byte characters.
>
> So, using UTF-8 fits the existing data types and code.  It's just
> another "code page" to such code.
>
> (2)  It is efficient for non-ideographic languages, and data-
> processing data that uses mostly ASCII identifiers.
>
> (3)  Being defined as a series of bytes, it is byte-order neutral.
>
> (4)  Contrast with UTF-16, which _still_ requires awareness of pairs
> to allow more than 64K code values.
>
> So, it's attractive for data storage and transmission.

I guess I have a hard time seeing how anything multi-byte is a boon. But, 
and it's a big but (not to be confused with a phat azz!), if one doesn't 
need "internationalization" (I mean other than English), it's a waste of 
effort. Yes? 

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UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-07 08:08 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-07 17:26 +0200
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 17:58 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 18:21 -0700
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-09 06:38 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings "Balog Pal" <pasa@lib.hu> - 2011-06-07 17:35 +0200
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 18:08 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Jeff Flinn <TriumphSprint2000@hotmail.com> - 2011-06-07 12:55 -0400
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee> - 2011-06-07 15:29 -0500
      Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 07:15 -0500
        Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-08 15:45 +0000
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 12:58 -0500
            Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-09 09:18 +0000
              Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 07:36 -0500
                Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-10 13:18 -0700
                Re: UTF-8 and strings Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn@panix.com> - 2011-06-11 00:29 +0000
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-10 12:58 -0700
  Re: UTF-8 and strings diamondback <christopher.rau@gmail.com> - 2011-06-07 10:57 -0700
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-06-08 06:38 +0000
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-07 13:30 -0700
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2011-06-08 06:52 +0000
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Marc <marc.glisse@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 08:38 +0000
        Re: UTF-8 and strings Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-08 18:02 +0900
          Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 02:05 -0700
            Re: UTF-8 and strings Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-08 18:11 +0900
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 07:22 -0500
        Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 02:03 -0700
          Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 02:06 -0700
        Re: UTF-8 and strings tm <thomas.mertes@gmx.at> - 2011-06-08 02:59 -0700
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 18:20 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 01:56 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-08 07:19 -0500
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-10 13:12 -0700
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-10 18:34 -0500
            Re: UTF-8 and strings Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> - 2011-06-11 13:12 +0900
            Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-12 20:52 -0700
              Re: UTF-8 and strings ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2011-06-13 03:57 +0000
                Re: UTF-8 and strings Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-13 10:51 +0200
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-08 08:01 +0100
  Re: UTF-8 and strings Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-07 21:35 +0100
    Re: UTF-8 and strings Joshua Maurice <joshuamaurice@gmail.com> - 2011-06-08 01:56 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings Nobody <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2011-06-09 03:22 +0100
  Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-08 15:55 +0000
    Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-08 17:55 -0700
      Re: UTF-8 and strings yatremblay@bel1lin202.(none) (Yannick Tremblay) - 2011-06-09 10:02 +0000
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "MikeP" <mp011011@some.org> - 2011-06-09 08:41 -0500
          Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-12 20:57 -0700
            Re: UTF-8 and strings ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2011-06-13 04:46 +0000
              Re: UTF-8 and strings Asger-P <junk@asger-p.dk> - 2011-06-13 11:58 +0200
        Re: UTF-8 and strings "John M. Dlugosz" <uwqejpnp92@snkmail.com> - 2011-06-09 06:52 -0700

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