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Re: OT: Key duplication

From Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: OT: Key duplication
Date 2021-01-23 09:07 -0700
Message-ID <i72vtbF2m3kU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 1/22/2021 3:42 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 22/01/2021 15.27, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On 1/22/2021 6:43 AM, Mayayana wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote
> 
> 
> ...
> 
>> I've never used, or even tried Linux or Apple's operating system, or any
>> other operating system except for Android. (and IBM's mainframe
>> operating systems, none of which I've used for almost 30 years now).
>> 
>> Which is the best operating system for PCs? I don't know and I don't
>> care. Windows is fine for me.  I'm not the world's biggest Windows
>> expert, but I know it very well, and I'm not about to toss away the time
>> and trouble I've spent learning it, and start all over again to learn
>> something new.
> 
> 
> The thing is, most people are used to Windows since ever (some in
> kindergarten, others, well, started with msdos ;-) 


I started on an IBM 1401 in 1962, well before any PCs--well before 
Microsoft even existed.

I started on a PC in 1987, in MS-DOS. But note that some people started 
with PC-DOS or CPM or on machines like Amiga, Atari, Sinclair, TI, 
Apple, etc.

And a lot of people have never run Windows. They've only run a Macintosh 
or an iPhone or Android.

I've used every version of Windows starting with 2.0, except for those 
called NT.

In general, I think almost every version except for 8 has been better 
than its predecessors in most respects. Notice that I said "in *most* 
respects," not "in *all* respects."


) and know how to do
> the things they wish to on it. 


Yes, I do. I also know hoe to do a lot of things I don't want to do.


> They don't notice its quirks, 


That's true of some people. Most people? Maybe, but I'm not so sure. In 
fact, I doubt it. It's certainly not true of me. I notice lots of 
quirks. If I owned Microsoft and could dictate what that did, I would 
make lots of changes.


> they think
> that simply that's the way things have to be done.


I strongly disagree with that. In my experience most people would want 
many changes. They don't all want the same changes, but they almost all 
want some.

But the same is true, not just of Windows, but of almost every product 
of any kind. For me, it's true of almost every piece of software I run, 
of almost every website I visit, of almost every piece of computer 
hardware I own, of my smart phone, of my car, of my television set, of 
the cable service I use, of the e-mail service I use, of the usenet 
service I use, and so on.


> Trying to change to an unfamiliar operating system is not easy: there
> are differences and hurdles. There is a learning effort.


Yes, yes, and yes. I strongly agree. That's the main reason why I don't 
want to change. As I think I said, I don't want to make the time or take 
the trouble to do that. Windows is far from perfect, but it's good 
enough for me, and it generally gets better as the years go by.



> Which is the best OS? The one you feel better with :-)


That all depends on what you mean by "best." As far as I'm concerned, 
there's a big difference between "best" and "best for me." Windows is 
best for me. As I said, I don''t know which as is best and I don't care.



-- 
Ken

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    Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:08 -0800
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      Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-13 22:58 +0100
        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 15:56 -0800
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              Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:07 -0800
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-15 15:30 +0100
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                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 18:47 -0800
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-18 23:08 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 14:22 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-19 13:50 +0100
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 01:42 +0100
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 22:09 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 14:06 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:08 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 19:35 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 12:45 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 09:37 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:21 +0100
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                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 19:48 -0800
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:16 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:42 -0700
                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 15:16 -0800
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:25 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 19:49 -0800
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                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 09:55 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-23 20:05 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 14:49 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 06:46 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 10:09 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 09:56 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 13:04 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication Boris <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-22 02:02 +0000
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:36 +0100
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                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-20 09:08 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-20 23:08 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-20 09:08 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-20 07:42 -0800
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          Re: OT: Key duplication  Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-14 00:37 +0000
      Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-20 09:03 -0500
        Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 09:53 -0800
        Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-20 20:20 -0800
          Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-21 08:00 -0500
            Re: OT: Key duplication Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 05:31 -0800
            Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 07:14 -0800
              Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-21 12:28 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-21 11:18 -0800
            Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-21 22:15 +0100
              Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-21 17:50 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 04:43 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-22 08:43 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:27 -0700
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-22 12:46 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-22 12:50 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:29 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication - Wine "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-22 23:36 +0100
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                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 16:05 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-23 09:11 -0700
                Re: OT: Key duplication The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-23 10:37 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-23 17:23 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-23 09:07 -0700
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-23 13:42 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-22 14:48 -0800
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-23 05:02 +0100
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-23 08:47 -0500
                Re: OT: Key duplication "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-23 00:20 +0100
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  Re: OT: Key duplication micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2021-01-20 07:19 -0500

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